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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:10]

THIS MEETING IS NOW CONVENED.

THE TIME IS 9:04 A.M..

BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT IN THE BOARD AUDITORIUM ARE.

TRUSTEE ALLEN, TRUSTEE HERNANDEZ, TRUSTEE WADE, TRUSTEE BAKER, AND TRUSTEE DEIGAARD.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES.

OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO HEAR FROM SPEAKERS TO THE AGENDA ITEMS. HOWEVER, WE HAVE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS TODAY.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING HELD ON DECEMBER 15, 2022?

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 15, 2022]

SO MOVED, BAKER.

SECOND, WADE. WE HAVE A MOTION BY TRUSTEE BAKER AND A SECOND BY TRUSTEE WADE.

PLEASE VOTE. WE HAVE FIVE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND ZERO ABSTENTIONS.

[DISPUTE RESOLUTION HEARING, SHANDRA STEVENS, FORMER EMPLOYEE, HISD POLICE]

WE WILL NOW MOVE TO DISPUTE RESOLUTION HEARING WITH SHANDRA STEVENS, FORMER EMPLOYEE HISD POLICE.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING IS TO CONSIDER THE DISPUTE FILED BY SHANDRA STEVENS, FORMER POLICE OFFICER HISD POLICE DEPARTMENT.

HEARINGS INVOLVING COMPLAINTS AGAINST DISTRICT EMPLOYEES ARE TO BE HELD IN CLOSED SESSION UNLESS THE EMPLOYEE, WHO IS SUBJECT TO THE HEARING REQUESTS AN OPEN HEARING.

PLEASE NOTE THAT OPEN HEARINGS ARE LIVESTREAMED ON HISDTV, AS ARE ALL SPECIAL MEETINGS OF THE BOARD.

IF BOTH PARTIES REQUEST AN OPEN SESSION DURING THIS HEARING, THE BOARD MAY GO INTO CLOSED SESSION TO CONSULT WITH ITS ATTORNEY UNDER THE TERMS OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 551.071. IF ANY BOARD MEMBER WISHES TO SEEK ADVICE OF COUNSEL, PLEASE MAKE THIS REQUEST KNOWN TO ME.

FOR THE RECORD, BRIDGETT BRUMBAUGH, [INAUDIBLE] ATTORNEY REPRESENTING SHANDRA STEVENS, IS PRESENT.

PAUL LAMP WITH SPALDING.

NICHOLS LAMP LANGLOIS REPRESENTING THE ADMINISTRATION IS PRESENT.

CATOSHA WOODS.

HISD INTERIM GENERAL COUNSEL IS PRESENT, AND LISA MCBRIDE FROM THE FIRM OF THOMPSON AND HORTON L.P.

IS PRESENT TO ADVISE THE BOARD.

ARE WE DOING OPEN OR CLOSED? WOULD Y'ALL LIKE OPEN OR CLOSED SESSION? WE WILL NOW ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION.

AND IF ANY PARTIES ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THIS HEARING, YOU MAY LEAVE THE AUDITORIUM AT THIS TIME.

THE BOARD WILL NOW ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION UNDER CHAPTER 551 OF TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE OPEN MEETINGS ACT SUBSECTIONS

[ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTIONS 551.004, 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.076, 551.082, 551.0821, 551.083, 551.084, AND 551.089 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE FOR THE PURPOSES LISTED IN THIS NOTICE]

551.004, 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.076, 551.082, 551.0821, 551.083, 551.084 AND 551.089. SHOULD BOARD FINAL ACTION, VOTE OR DECISION ON ANY MATTER, CONSIDERED IN A CLOSED SESSION BE REQUIRED SUCH FINAL ACTION, VOTE OR DECISION SHALL BE TAKEN AT THE OPEN MEETING COVERED BY THIS NOTICE UPON THE RECONVENING OF THIS PUBLIC MEETING OR AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING OF THE BOARD UPON NOTICE THEREOF.

THE BOARD HAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 9:07 A.M.

ON JANUARY 19, 2023.

TO PROVIDE THE MOST ACCURATE RECORD POSSIBLE OF THIS HEARING.

GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS MEETING IS NOW RECONVENED AT 1:10 P.M..

WE'RE NOW READY TO HEAR FROM BRIAN KINCAID, MANAGER POLICY MANAGEMENT, WHO WILL LEAD TODAY'S BOARD MEETING.

BOARD MEMBER TRAINING ON ILEGISLATE.

[BOARD MEMBER TRAINING ON ILEGISLATE]

AND WHILE BRIAN 45 MINUTES.

WE ALSO HAVE TO STOP BY WE KNOW TODAY THAT TOO.

SO ANOTHER SECOND REMINDER IS PLEASE GO SLOW.

YOU ARE ABOUT TO GET THE SCRIPT THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW.

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HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP YOU SEE THE ACTIONS THAT WE ARE TAKING YES. FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S A TRAINING AND IT'S A PRACTICE, IT IS BEING STREAMED AND I ALREADY TOLD YOU ABOUT THE SCRIPT.

WE ALSO HAVE A REALLY NICE LITTLE HANDTOUT WITH SOME HELPFUL TIPS THAT MS. SMITH IS GOING TO GO OVER.

AND WHILE SHE'S PASSING IT OUT, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS A EASY TRANSITION AND MAKING SURE WE KNOW HOW TO USE ALL OF THIS.

AND FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH US.

THANK YOU. STAFF THAT WAS DIRECTED TO STAFF.

GOOD PRACTICE.

HEY, IT'S JUST PRACTICE.

YOU REALLY QUICK REMINDERS TO PLEASE MAKE SURE ALL THE EXTRA WHEN YOU START TO CLOSE IT AND START IT AGAIN BEFORE YOU GO TO THE MEETING THAT YOU'RE JOINING TODAY.

AND THEN ALSO, PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE ON HISD WIFI, NOT AS A GUEST.

SO THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS WE HAVE TO DO EVERY TIME BEFORE YOU JOIN A MEETING.

AND THEN JUST A COUPLE OF REMINDERS.

WE'VE PRACTICED THIS BOTH WAYS WHERE WE HAD THE PERSON MAKING A MOTION SAY THAT THEY WERE MAKING THE MOTION AFTER THEY DID IT.

AND THEN IN OUR LAST PRACTICE, WE HAD THE PRESIDENT REPEAT THEIR NAME.

THIS TIME WE'RE NOT SHARING THE SCREEN WITH THE PRESIDENT SEAT TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE PRACTICING WITH MS. AGUILAR HERE AND SHE'S NOT ABLE TO PROJECT TO YOU FROM THIS SPOT.

WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO THAT.

SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO TRY IS OUR ORIGINAL PROCESS, WHICH IS IF YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON TO PRESS THE MOTION BUTTON, YOUR SCREEN WILL SHOW WITHDRAW MOTION.

AND IF YOU SEE THAT, YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE THE PERSON WHO SUCCESSFULLY MADE THE MOTION.

SO THEN YOU WOULD SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AND SAY SO MOVED.

IF YOU WERE THE PERSON WHO SUCCESSFULLY MADE THE SECOND, YOU'LL SEE WITHDRAW SECOND, IF YOU SEE THAT, THEN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE SECOND . THIS IS ABSOLUTELY OPPOSITE OF HOW WE DO IT IN MEETINGS WHERE THE PERSON WHO SAYS IT FIRST IS THE PERSON WHO DOES IT.

IN THIS INSTANCE, YOU WOULD BE THE REVERSE.

YOU HAVE TO PUSH THE BUTTON, CONFIRM IT, AND THEN SAY IT.

BUT WE WON'T HEAR THE PRESIDENT REPEAT BECAUSE SHE WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE ON HER SCREEN FOR TODAY.

SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO TRY IT OUT, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU ALL.

AND THEN I THINK THE LAST THING WE DISCUSSED AT OUR PREVIOUS SESSION WAS IF YOU WANT TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO A CURRENT MOTION OR IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT'S UNEXPECTED, THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD PUSH THE REQUEST TO SPEAK BUTTON AND WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE BOARD PRESIDENT.

ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE START? AND I KNOW BRIAN'S HOPING TRUSTEE CRUZ GET LOGGED IN.

SO IT MIGHT JUST BE A SECOND IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE SCRIPT.

DOES EVERYBODY HAVE IT? WHAT WE DID IS WE BASICALLY TOOK THE LAST SESSION SCRIPT.

WE CUT OUT ALL THE EXTRA PARTS OF THE MEETING AND WE WANT TO PRACTICE JUST THE SPECIFIC MOTIONS THAT THAT WE FIND COME UP OFTEN IN MEETINGS.

SO MAKING A MOTION TO POSTPONE, WHETHER IT'S INDEFINITELY OR TO A SPECIFIC TIME PERIOD.

ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENS OFTEN IS MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO A MOTION OR MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO AN ITEM.

AND I THINK WE EVEN ADDED AN AMENDMENT TO AN AMENDMENT SINCE THAT DOES COME UP.

SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CHANCE FOR MS. AGUILAR TO PRACTICE IN THE SYSTEM WHILE WE ALL KIND OF LEARN HOW TO WAIT AND GET THOSE IN ORDER.

YES, MA'AM. WHOSE SCREEN IPAD IS BEING PROJECTED ON THE SCREEN? GOOD QUESTION. THAT WOULD BE MINE RIGHT HERE.

OKAY, PERFECT. JUST WANTED TO KNOW.

SO WE WANTED TO START OFF RIGHT WITH THE CLOSING OF ANYTHING OPEN, BECAUSE THAT WILL CREATE PROBLEMS WITH.

AND OF COURSE, MY TOUCH IS NOT QUITE RIGHT.

THERE WE GO. SO YOU SWIPE UP FROM THE BOTTOM, AND IT MAY BE A THIRD OF THE WAY, AND YOU GET THAT DISPLAYS EVERYBODY ALREADY DONE THIS.

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OKAY. WASTING TIME. AND THEN WE'LL START ILEGISLATE.

AND YOU'LL SEE THE JOIN BUTTON.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO FIRST IS JUST REVISIT THE NAVIGATION AND THE NOTES ASPECTS THAT WE WENT OVER IN SMALL GROUPS A LONG TIME AGO.

SO YOU CAN SCROLL THROUGH, YOU SEE THE FULL LISTING OF EVERYTHING THAT'S HERE.

I'M GOING TO PICK THIS BUSINESS OPERATIONS PRACTICE AGENDA ITEM.

YOU SEE THE RECOMMENDATION STATEMENT, YOU SEE THE DEPARTMENT.

YOU'LL SEE THE TOPIC ON THE RIGHT STAFF REPORT.

THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY CALL THE AGENDA ITEM ITSELF.

IF IT HAD ATTACHMENTS, EXPLANATORY SHEETS, DATA REPORTS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU WOULD SEE THEM LISTED ALSO.

AND YOU CAN JUST CLICK ANY PARTICULAR DOCUMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE ITEM AND VIEW IT.

YOUR NOTES IS THIS YELLOW AREA AT THE BOTTOM AND YOU TAP IT AND THEN YOU CAN TYPE SAVE YOUR NOTE.

AND IF YOU COME BACK, YOU CAN USE THE BREADCRUMBS TO COME BACK TO THE FULL AGENDA LISTING.

YOU CAN SEE HERE THERE'S A LITTLE YELLOW HIGHLIGHT ON THAT ITEM AND A LITTLE INDICATOR ON THE RIGHT THAT THERE'S A NOTE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM, THERE ARE LITTLE BUTTONS, AGENDAS, BOOKMARKS.

YOU CAN ALSO ADD BOOKMARKS IF YOU JUST WANT TO FLAG AN ITEM, BUT YOU DON'T ACTUALLY WANT TO WRITE SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

YEAH, THE NOTES BUTTON THAT'LL SHOW YOU ANY NOTES YOU'VE ENTERED ON, ANY ITEM.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT GOES BACK HISTORICALLY.

THERE ARE THINGS I'VE PUT IN FROM OCTOBER.

SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAYS TO GET AROUND.

I'M GOING TO GO INTO IS THIS ONLY ON YOUR SCREEN OR SHOULD I SAY SOMETHING RIGHT NOW HIGHLIGHTED ON MY SCREEN? THAT YELLOW HIGHLIGHT YOU WOULD NOT SEE BECAUSE IT'S MY NOTE.

THANK YOU. SO YOUR NOTES ARE ONLY YOURS AND THEY WILL STAY WITH YOUR IPAD.

SO DON'T LEAVE IT AT HOME.

I'M GOING TO GO INTO THIS ITEM 4 NOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE NAVIGATION.

THESE TWO ARROW BUTTONS WILL LET YOU SCROLL THROUGH WHATEVER'S LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT EVEN INCLUDES HEADINGS LIKE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT YOU CAN JUST TAP.

YOU KNOW, DURING A MEETING LET'S SAY YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN ITEM OR EVEN LOOKING AT YOUR NOTES ON AN ITEM.

IF A VOTE COMES UP WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, THAT VOTE OVERLAY WITH THE YES NO ABSTAIN BOXES, THAT WILL JUST POP UP OVER WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

IF WE'RE NOT IF WE OPEN ANOTHER SO I BELIEVE WE'RE THINKING THAT THESE MONITORS WITH THEIR ASSOCIATED LAPTOPS WILL STAY.

IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE Q&A OR SOMETHING ELSE OPEN ON THAT SCREEN.

IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF THE YEAH, I THINK THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH. AND BUT ALSO YOU CAN RUN INTO PROBLEMS JUST BECAUSE IT'S SENSITIVE TO HAVING OTHER THINGS OPEN.

IT'S JUST ALSO MUCH OF THE LOGISTICALLY, FOR US, IT DOESN'T MAKE THAT MUCH SENSE.

SO BASED ON YOUR IPAD AND IT ALL COMES UP THROUGH THE BUSINESS OF BOARD MEETING AND ANY ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS THAT YOU MAY DO, LIKE A Q&A OR A

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ANY ADDITIONAL THAT IS NOT PART OF THE AGENDA PACKAGE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU.

BUT YOU ARE SAYING THE WHAT KIND OF DOCUMENT WERE YOU TRYING TO SAY THAT YOU NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO MANEUVER OR TYPE SOMETHING? SOMETIMES I USE GOOGLE TO LOOK AT INFORMATION THAT LIKE SOMETHING THAT I NEED, THAT I NEED TO REFERENCE BACK TO.

AND LIKE, IT'S JUST THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPACE HERE TO TRY TO DO ALL OF THAT AT THE SAME TIME.

IT'S OKAY. YOU CAN CONTINUE.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION TOO.

SUE IS IN THE QUEUE.

SO THE Q&A DOCUMENT, I MEAN, I'M HEARING PRESIDENT HERNANDEZ'S COMMENT.

I MEAN, I'M HAVING THE SAME A LITTLE MORE SPACE DOWN HERE.

BUT I THE REST OF Y'ALL DON'T BUT WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE EITHER THE KEYBOARD FOR THIS DEVICE THAT SOME OF US DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO OR DISTRICT LAPTOP OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME OTHER DEVICE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE Q&A DOCUMENT.

COULD THE Q&A DOC SO THIS AGENDA ITEM THAT WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW OR THAT YOU'RE USING AS BUSINESS OPERATIONS PRACTICE AGENDA ITEM.

YOU KNOW, IF A BOARD MEMBER HAS SUBMITTED SOMETHING TO THE Q&A ON THIS ITEM, COULD THOSE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA PACKET ITEM? RIGHT. SO THAT THIS THERE'S ALWAYS THE COVER SHEET AND THEN THERE ARE THE ADDITIONAL SUPPORTING SHEETS.

COULD ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL SUPPORTING SHEETS BE, HERE ARE THE QUESTIONS BOARD MEMBERS ASKED ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, AND HERE ARE THE ADMINISTRATIVE RESPONSES.

SO THEY'RE ALL IN THIS SAME PLACE, IN THIS SYSTEM.

THAT WAY WE WON'T NEED TO REFER TO A DIFFERENT DEVICE TO REFERENCE Q&A QUESTIONS.

DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF GOOGLE, BUT IT SOLVES ONE PROBLEM.

I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT AND MY CONCERNS AS I'M THINKING ABOUT IT ARE REALLY THE TIMELINE THAT WE'VE ALREADY PRODUCED.

THE AGENDA PACKET BEFORE THE Q&A IS COMPLETE.

AND ADDING IT IN LATER IS POSSIBLE, BUT I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME COMPLICATIONS FROM IT.

LET ME THINK ABOUT IT AND MAYBE DO A LITTLE SANDBOX EXPERIMENT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

ONE SUGGESTION WAS IF YOU DID WANT TO USE THE KEYBOARD TO YOUR MONITOR IT'S ATTACHED TO A COMPUTER SO YOU COULD LOG IN WITH YOUR HISD USE THE PRESENTATION, COULD BE ON ONE HALF OF THE SCREEN, AND THEN YOU COULD USE THE OTHER HALF FOR YOUR PERSONAL DOCUMENTS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT.

SO THAT IS A COMPUTER IN FRONT OF YOU.

MOST PEOPLE JUST DON'T USE IT AS A COMPUTER.

WE JUST PUT STUFF UP AS A DISPLAY.

BUT YOU ACTUALLY COULD IF YOU WANTED TO.

NOW, IT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF THE KEYBOARD, BUT IT DOES HAVE A KEYBOARD, SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO EXPLORE AS WELL.

SO YEAH, SO AND I'M MAKING A LIST OF OUR CONCERNS, SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ADDRESS THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS.

TRUSTEE BAKER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, THAT GOES INTO ANSWERING MY QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT BRINGING OUT THE LAPTOP BECAUSE, LIKE SOME OF US ARE USED TO GOING INTO OTHER APPS, LIKE EMAILS, THE EMAIL THAT COMES FROM BRIAN.

DOUBLE CHECK THE AGENDA, YOU KNOW, AND JUST OTHER INFORMATION WHILE WE'RE IN SESSION.

BUT SINCE THIS IS A WORKING COMPUTER I WOULDN'T MIND GETTING USED TO START USING IT AS WELL AND SPLITTING THE SCREEN WHENEVER WE'RE HAVING A PRESENTATION.

SO YEAH, I'VE NEVER USED IT.

SO YEAH, YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I THINK FROM MY STANDPOINT, WE'VE SORT OF RECOVERED THE NOTES AND THE NAVIGATION AND WE WANT TO MOVE ON WITH THE PRACTICE AGENDA.

I THINK IF WE CAN GO THROUGH IT IN AN ORDERLY WAY AND MAYBE IF WE CAN TRY TO HOLD QUESTIONS TO THE END AND THAT WAY WE'LL GET THROUGH THE ACTIONS AND MAYBE THAT WILL ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.

SO WE WILL HAVE CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS HELD FOR ABSTENTION AND OR DISCUSSION.

WE WILL NOW CONSIDER [INAUDIBLE] IF YOU'RE ON THE SCRIPT, IT SAYS YELLOW A TRUSTEE SHOULD REQUEST TO SPEAK.

CAN WE DISPLAY?

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TRUSTEE WADE CAN YOU REQUEST TO SPEAK? OH, YEAH, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION.

YEAH. WE HAVE TO PICK AN ITEM.

SO WE WANT TO DO THE CLOSED SESSION VOTE.

SHE HAS TO. I THINK DORIS HAS TO PICK AN ITEM.

RIGHT? OKAY.

DID YOU DO IT ON THE IPAD? BECAUSE OKAY.

TRUSTEE WADE HAS A REQUEST TO SPEAK TRUSTEE WADE.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEE HERNANDEZ.

RIGHT HERE. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO SAY? EVERYBODY IS FOLLOWING THE SCRIPT, SO FOLLOW THE SCRIPT.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM FOUR FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? DEIGAARD SECOND. DEIGAARD SECOND.

A SECOND? BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE] TRUSTEE WADE ACTUALLY.

I MADE THE MOTION, BUT I DIDN'T CLICK THE BUTTON BECAUSE SHE ASKED ME TO REQUEST TO SPEAK.

SO. YEAH.

SO THAT'S RIGHT.

IF IT'S NOT AT A POINT WHERE THE BOARD PRESIDENT ASKS FOR A MOTION, THEN YOU SHOULD GO THROUGH THE REQUEST TO SPEAK.

AND WHEN YOU SAY I MAKE A MOTION.

THEN I NEED TO MAKE THE MOTION. I NEED TO CLICK THE BUTTON AND THEN MAKE THE MOTION, RIGHT? YEAH. SO WHEN SHE SAYS I MAKE THE MOTION, WE SHOULD CONSIDER HER AS THE MOVER.

PROCEDURAL QUESTION THEN.

ARE WE MAKING THE MOTION FROM OUR THING OR DO WE REQUEST TO SPEAK AND THEN MAKE THE MOTION? MADAM CHAIR. JUST I BELIEVE IT JUST DEPENDS.

I THINK THAT YOU AS CHAIR NEED TO TELL US WHAT THE PROCESS SHOULD BE OR BECAUSE WHAT I THINK WE'RE WHAT I HEAR WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID IS WHAT WE'RE ALWAYS DOING IS ALL SPEAKING OVER EACH OTHER ON MOTIONS AN SECONDS.

AM I CORRECT? RIGHT. SO THAT YOU CAN HEAR.

SO I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A CONSENSUS.

ARE WE GOING TO REQUEST TO SPEAK? AND THEN YOU CALL ON US AND WE MAKE THE MOTION AND THEN YOU'RE CALLING IN THE ORDER OF THE REQUEST TO SPEAK, OR ARE WE JUST PRESSING THE MAKE A MOTION BUTTON? MY OPINION IS JUST PRESS THE MAKE A MOTION BUTTON AND SOMEBODY JUST PRESS THE MAKE A SECOND BUTTON AND THEN SOMEBODY SAYS THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND, IT WOULD BE YOU.

RIGHT. BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S MADE THE MOTION AND THE SECOND.

WITH THIS PROGRAM SHE WON'T KNOW WHO MADE THE MOTION UNTIL AND THAT IS DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN.

SO HOW IS SHE GOING TO KNOW? SHE'S GOING TO KNOW THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BECAUSE THOSE ARE NO LONGER AN OPTION TO CHOOSE ON THE SCREEN? CORRECT. BUT THAT'S ONLY ON YOUR SCREEN THAT IT'S NOT AN OPTION.

YEAH, I AGREE.

AND ALSO, WHEN I ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR SPEAKERS, I SAW TWO PEOPLE AND I CLICKED VIEW SPEAKERS AND IT HAD A LITTLE RED DOT. I CLICKED IT AND HAD TWO SPEAKERS AND IT DISAPPEARED AND THERE WASN'T ANYBODY IN THE QUEUE ANYMORE.

[INAUDIBLE] CALL.

AND THEN THE NAME APPEARS ON THE SCREEN.

BLESS YOU.

THAT WAS KENDALL. BECAUSE I WENT BACK TO THE SCRIPT.

YEAH, THAT IS GOING TO SHOW UP.

SO THIS SCREEN IS GOING TO SO AT THE BOTTOM YOU'LL SEE THE NAME OF THE THE BUTTON WILL NOT SHOW SHE SPOKE AND THEN SHE WAS GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION, BUT SOMEBODY ELSE PUSHED THE BUTTON FIRST.

SO ON MY SCREEN, WHAT I SAW WAS TRUSTEE DEIGAARD PUSHED THE BUTTON FIRST AND THEN TRUSTEE ALLEN WAS SECOND.

THAT'S WHAT I SAW. I AGREE MIC] SOMEBODY CALL. WELL, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT SOMEBODY IT SHOWED SO MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT SYLVIA SAID EARLIER IS FIRST YOU SAY THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK OR MAKE A MOTION AND

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THEN YOU PUSH A BUTTON. NOW THAT IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND, YOU PUSH A BUTTON [INAUDIBLE].

SO PUSH THE BUTTON FIRST AND THEN SAY YOUR NAME.

SO DON'T SAY YOUR NAME UNTIL YOU SEE THAT THE BUTTON HAS CHANGED.

UNTIL YOU HAVE THE RED.

ACTUALLY THE PRESSING THE BUTTON THAT ENTERS YOU INTO THE SYSTEM AS A RECORD.

SO RED MEANS GO.

RED MEANS YES. IF YOU SEE RED.

THE ACTUAL MOVEMENT OF THE AGENDAS AND THE MOTIONS IS CONTROLLED BY WHOEVER PUSHES THE BUTTONS.

SO PUSH FIRST, THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S GRAYED OUT ON YOUR END.

YOU KNOW, IT WAS YOU BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION ANYMORE.

AND THEN FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHO MADE THAT MOTION, THAT'S WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL PERSON WILL CALL IT OUT, BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE UNLESS YOU ARE SEEING THE SAME SCREEN THAT THE MEDIA MANAGERS SEE.

WE PRACTICE THAT LAST TIME WITH PRESIDENT CRUZ.

WE WANT TO KNOW IF SEE [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE IT IS A BUSY SCREEN AND YOU HAVE TO GET A LITTLE ACCUSTOMED TO IT.

IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT, WE CAN TRY THAT.

TRY ONE METHOD FIRST, SEE HOW IT WORKS, AND THEY WE WILL TRY THE OTHER METHOD WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE WHAT USING YOUR SECOND SCREEN AS SOMETHING THAT YOU USE TO RESEARCH.

YEAH. AND THEN FOR BRIAN, MY SCREEN WENT BLACK BECAUSE I DIDN'T TOUCH IT.

AND SO IF WE CAN FIGURE I KNOW THAT THERE'S A WAY THAT YOU CAN KEEP IT ON FOR LIKE TWO OR 3 HOURS, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT.

SO IF YOU CAN HELP US WITH THAT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S FOR ALL OF US.

YEAH. SO THAT'S A DISPLAY OF IT GOES TO SLEEP. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ON THE TIPS THEY JUST GAVE US IT SAYS, LOOK TO SEE IF YOU LOOK AND SEE THAT YOUR SCREEN SAYS WITHDRAW MOTION, THAT MEANS SOMEBODY ELSE ALREADY HIT MOTION.

YOU GOT TO LOOK TO SEE. NO, THAT MEANS YOU GET TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION.

IF YOU HIT THE MOTION BUTTON WHILE IT'S GREEN, IT WILL TURN RED AND THEN BECOME WITHDRAW MOTION.

THAT MEANS, OVER THE WELL, I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO LOOK TO SEE THAT CORRECT. THEY CAN'T SAY SO MOVE DEIGAARD OR WADE BECAUSE THERE'S ARE GRAYED OUT.

CORRECT. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY LOOK BEFORE THEY SAY SO MOVE.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. YEAH.

GOT IT. AND BACK TO THE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE MOVING.

NOW, THE WAY IT WORKS IS IF THE BOARD PRESIDENT OPENS UP FOR DISCUSSION AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING SAYS, I FORGET EXACTLY WHAT THE QUESTION IS THAT YOU NORMALLY ASK, BUT IS THERE ANY DO MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? AND TRUSTEE WADE PUSHES HER REQUEST TO SPEAK.

THAT IS THE RIGHT WAY FOR HER TO INTRODUCE A MOTION TO PULL AN ITEM FROM CONSENT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

AT THAT POINT, [INAUDIBLE] SHOULD CLICK THE MOTION BUTTON AND ENTER TRUSTEE WADE AS THE MOVER.

AND THEN WHEN YOU SAY, I HAVE A MOTION, DO I HAVE A SECOND? AT THAT POINT, THE SECOND BUTTON SHOULD BE VISIBLE AND THE PERSON CAN PRESS THE SECOND BUTTON.

MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WE START FROM THE TOP AND THEN TRY AGAIN.

SO EVERYBODY, LOOK AT YOUR SCRIPT.

FOLLOW ALONG. WE WILL NOW CONSIDER ITEMS HELD FROM ABSTENTION AND OR DISCUSSION.

TRUSTEE WADE HAS A REQUEST TO SPEAK.

TRUSTEE WADE. I MAKE A MOTION.

READ IT.

[INAUDIBLE]. OH, SORRY.

SORRY. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET IT DONE.

OKAY. OH, I MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM FOUR FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM FOUR FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM TRUSTEE WADE AND A SECOND FROM TRUSTEE DEIGAARD.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES?

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TRUSTEE BAKER. TESTING.

THANK YOU. PLEASE VOTE.

WE HAVE FIVE IN FAVOR, ZERO ABSTENTIONS AND I MEAN ZERO ABSTENTIONS AND ONE OPPOSED.

NO, ZERO OPPOSED ONE ABSTENTION.

OH, OKAY.

SORRY. THE NUMBERS AND THE COLORS DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME, BUT I SEE IT NOW.

OKAY. TURN THE PAGE.

TRUSTEES DISCUSSION.

FOR EACH ITEM OF DISCUSSION, WE WILL DO ONE ROUND OF ONE MINUTE PER TRUSTEE.

IF AN ADDITIONAL ROUND IS DESIRED, THAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE MOTION SECOND AND BOARD VOTE.

OUR FIRST ITEM HELD FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ITEM TWO THE TALENT PRACTICE ITEM.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION? DO I HAVE A SECOND? SO MOVE BAKER.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY.

AND WHO MADE IT? I DON'T KNOW WHO MADE THE MOTION.

SECOND ALLEN. WE HAVE A MOTION BY TRUSTEE BAKER AND A SECOND BY TRUSTEE ALLEN.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? TRUSTEE DEIGAARD.

TESTING. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THAT FOLLOW THE SCRIPT? TRUSTEE WADE.

THANK YOU. TESTING.

IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE FEATURE.

MAKE SOMEBODY TO MAKE A MOTION FOR POSTPONEMENT AND THE THEN I'M IN THE QUEUE.

OK. TRUSTEE ALLEN.

I HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO AMERICA.

2ND OF JANUARY, JUNE 39.

[LAUGHTER] DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. DEIGAARD.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY TRUSTEE ALLEN AND A SECOND BY TRUSTEE DEIGAARD.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? TRUSTEE WADE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

I'M TRYING TO GET BACK ON SCRIPT.

TRUSTEE ALLEN.

LODI DODI DODI. [LAUGHTER] OK, PLEASE VOTE.

THE RESULTS ARE THREE IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED AND TWO ABSTENTIONS.

OUR NEXT ITEM HELD FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ITEM THREE, THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS ITEM.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION? DO I HAVE A SECOND? I DIDN'T SAY SO MOVE I CAN SEE WHEN SOMEBODY PUTS IN A MOTION.

SO I STILL NEED TO WAIT FOR THEM TO SAY.

SORRY. SO I PRESSED THE MOTION.

SO. SO MOVED DEIGAARD.

SECOND TRUSTEE CRUZ.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? TRUSTEE DEIGAARD.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND THEIR PATIENCE IN HELPING US LEARN NEW THINGS.

TRUSTEE BAKER.

I HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THIS ITEM TO READ.

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OH. 147.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND ALLEN. AND SECOND ALLEN.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY TRUSTEE BAKER AND A SECOND BY TRUSTEE ALLEN.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? YEAH.

THIS IS A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER.

WHEN I ASK, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? THREE PEOPLE GOT IN THE QUEUE.

BAKER, ALLEN AND WADE.

I THINK JUDITH IS HERE TOO.

I WAS GOING TO SAY THE ARE THERE ANY COMMENT FROM THIS AMENDMENT, BUT THEY STILL DIDN'T SPEAK BEFORE THE AMENDMENT.

OKAY. NOW, I GUESS THEY HAVE TO DO IT BACK IN THE QUEUE, WHICH IS WHAT THEY WOULD NORMALLY DO IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT.

OKAY. SO ARE YOU LET'S SAY BOTH AMENDMENTS PASS AND YOU'RE BACK TO THE UNDERLYING MOTION, WILL THAT [INAUDIBLE] COME BACK UP? BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE COULD STILL SPEAK TO THE UNDERLYING MOTION BECAUSE THEY GOT IN THE QUEUE BEFORE THE MOTION TO AMEND.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES.

I'M NOT SURE. I JUST SAW JUDITH POP IN AFTER.

SO THEY ARE XED OUT AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GET BACK IN.

THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO GET BACK IN BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET BACK TO THE UNDERLYING MOTION, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT SAME QUEUE ANYMORE.

NO. ONCE SHE CALLED ON THEM, THEY DISAPPEAR.

SHE WOULDN'T HAVE CALLED ON TRUSTEE CRUZ YET, THOUGH.

NO, SHE HASN'T CALLED ON ANY OF THESE TRUSTEES.

SO WE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PROCEDURALLY.

SO WE HAD A MOTION AN A SECOND AND WE WERE GETTING READY TO START SOME DISCUSSION.

I THINK TRUSTEE BAKER CAME IN AND MADE A MOTION TO AMEND, BUT THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO DISCUSS THE UNDERLYING MOTION.

SO NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH THE MOTION TO AMEND, AND ANYONE WHO WANTS TO DISCUSS THAT, WE'RE GOING TO PRETTY QUICKLY BE INTERRUPTED BY ANOTHER MOTION TO AMEND, AND THEN WE'LL START VOTING ON REVERSE ORDER.

WHEN WE GET BACK TO THE UNDERLYING MOTION THOSE TWO PEOPLE WHO ORIGINALLY WANTED TO SPEAK, WILL THAT QUEUE STILL HOLD THEIR NAMES OR DO THEY HAVE TO GET BACK IN THE QUEUE? THEY'RE STILL YEAH, BUT THAT'S A QUEUE FROM BEFORE.

THIS IS A NEW ITEM TO DISCUSS.

SO MY QUESTION IS TRUSTEE ALLEN AND WADE, DO Y'ALL JUST SEE THE BUTTON IS OR IS IT GRAYED OUT TO SPEAK? SO THEY'RE ON THE SPEAKERS, BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS ARE THEY SHOWING UP ON THE TOP OF THE QUEUE, WHICH THEY THEY WANT TO SPEAK SO SHE STAYS ON THE QUEUE.

NOW WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT.

HOW DOES SHE KNOW WHO IS IN THE QUEUE FOR THE UNDERLYING MOTION WHICH WE PASSED AND NOW WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT? IN PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, WOULD THE PROPER THING BE THAT ON THE FIRST MOTION, EVERYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK TO IT SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK BEFORE A NEW MOTION IS STARTED.

AND THEN IT INTERRUPTS. ROBERTS RULES SAYS SO LET'S SAY THE FIRST PERSON IN THE QUEUE WANTS TO AMEND.

NOW WE'RE DECIDING ON THE MOTION TO AMEND, EVEN THOUGH WE MIGHT HAVE NINE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE FOR THE UNDERLYING MOTION.

OKAY. SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHETHER THE SPEAKER'S STAY TIED TO THE MOTION THAT THEY WANTED TO SPEAK TO.

OR WHETHER THEY HAVE TO REENTER THE QUEUE ONCE WE GET BACK DOWN THAT CHAIN, IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU.

RIGHT. IT TOTALLY DOES.

AND ALSO SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T TESTED LIKE YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

IT GETS POSTPONED BY THE INTRODUCTION OF A SECONDARY MOTION, AND THEN YOU ASK TO SPEAK TO THAT MOTION TOO.

HOW'S THAT WORKING? WELL, WE HAVE NOT TESTED THAT.

I SEE THAT TRUSTEE ALLEN WAS ABLE TO TAKE HERSELF OUT OF THE QUEUE RIGHT NOW.

SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE WE HAVE TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOURSELF OUT OF THE QUEUE AND PUT YOURSELF IN THE QUEUE AGAIN.

ONE THING

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SO SINCE THIS ISN'T A NEW ITEM, IT'S JUST AN AMENDMENT TO THE SAME ITEM.

SHE WILL STAY IN THE QUEUE UNLESS SHE TAKES HERSELF OUT OR AND THEN BY THE TIME YOU REVERSE ORDER, THOSE NAMES WON'T BE THERE ANYMORE.

SO I THINK IT'S UP TO YOU.

DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO REMOVE THEMSELVES OR IF THEY GET CALLED ON THEY CAN SAY, WELL, I WAS IN IT FOR THIS, BUT I STILL WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE.

HOW DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT.

CLEAR IT WITH THE NEW MOTION.

I THINK THAT'S THE EASIEST THING TO DO ON OUR END.

RIGHT. WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE UNDER THE OLD SYSTEM? THE OLD SYSTEM DIDN'T THEY WERE OH, AND YOU WOULD BE. BUT YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL WHAT THEY WERE IN THE QUEUE FOR, THOUGH YOU WOULD JUST SAY, OH, I WAS TALKING.

GOT IT. OKAY, OKAY.

SO THEN JUST LEAVE THEM IN THE QUEUE? IF YOU WANT TO. IF THAT WAS WHAT WAS HAPPENING BEFORE AND THEN IS THAT, HOW YOU USED TO DO IT BEFORE ? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW HE DOESN'T SHAKE IT UP BECAUSE OH, YEAH. I DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION.

YEAH, I THINK THE PERSON NEEDS TO CLEAR IT LIKE THEY'RE IN THEIR I KNOW. THAT'S AN AWESOME ASK.

SUCH AND SUCH. ARE YOU IN THE QUEUE FOR THIS? YEAH. YOU'D HAVE TO ASK THEM TO CLARIFY YOU'LL HAVE TO SAY ARE YOU IN THE QUEUE ON THE MOTION TO AMEND OR ARE YOU ON THE QUEUE FOR THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

AND THEN THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY WE INITIALLY WE HAVE TO GO SLOW BECAUSE AS A BOARD, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT ARE YOU DISCUSSING THE ORIGINAL ITEM OR ARE YOU DISCUSSING AN AMENDED ITEM? AND SO, YEAH, JUST KIND OF IT'S PAINSTAKINGLY SLOW TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KIND OF IS ON THE SAME PAGE AND KNOW, OH, NOW WE'RE DISCUSSING AN AMENDMENT. THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, MY TURN NOW IT'S MY TURN BECAUSE NOW WE'VE ALREADY TOOK ACTION ON THE AMENDED.

NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ITEM.

NOW THIS IS MY TURN NOW TO JUMP IN AND SPEAK.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE SCRIPT.

I'M ON PAGE THREE AND ONE, TWO, THREE.

THERE'S THREE YELLOW ITEMS. I'M STARTING RIGHT UNDERNEATH THAT THIRD YELLOW ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES AND JUDITH CRUZ TRUSTEE CRUZ WAS IN THE DISCUSSION.

JUST WANTED TO SAY HI.

TRUSTEE MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT.

ITEM THREE, THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS DORIS.

I CAN.

AMEND THE AMENDMENT NOW. SINCE I'M IN THE QUEUE, I CAN DO THAT IF YOU WANT.

YOU'RE NOT IN THE QUEUE ANY MORE YOU DISAPPEARED FROM THE QUEUE.

I DON'T KNOW.

MOTION TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT, TO REMEMBER TO GO [INAUDIBLE]? YES, I HAVE A TRUST.

I HAVE. [LAUGHTER] I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT.

AND I'M GOING SLOWLY.

I HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT TO READ X, Y, Z.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BAKER. DID YOU PUSH IT? I PUSHED IT ALREADY AND IT SAYS WITHDRAW.

YES. YES.

NO, BUT I'M TRUSTEE WADE AND.

DON'T FORGET YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY I HAVE A MOTION AN A SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? I HAVE TRUSTEE WADE IN THE SPEAKER LIST.

NO. I THINK I WAS JUST PUTTING MYSELF IN TO MAKE A MOTION.

BUT I'M STILL IN THERE, SO.

HI. PLEASE VOTE.

VOTE TO APPROVE, PLEASE.

ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPT.

I WAS GOING TO CLARIFY. SO RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU HAVE IS YOU'VE ATTACHED THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

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NOW YOU'VE GOT TO ATTACH THE AMENDMENT TO THE UNDERLYING ITEM, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TO ADOPT THE UNDERLYING ITEM AS WRITTEN.

SO TECHNICALLY, YOU'VE GOT TWO MORE VOTES.

THE SCRIPT ONLY CALLS FOR ONE MORE.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK UP THE CHAIN.

OKAY. ONE THING YOU REMINDED OF US LAST TIME IS THAT WE WANT TO GET IN THE HABIT OF SAYING WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON.

SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING.

OUR NEXT VOTE SHOULD BE.

THE AMENDMENT TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.

YEAH. SO THAT'S THE NEXT THING.

IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SPEAK, SO THAT WOULD BE FIVE.

OKAY. WE HAVE FOUR IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO ABSTENTIONS.

SO IT NEVER CAUGHT THE THAT WAS THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

THAT WAS THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

YES. YES.

IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE SCREEN TO REFLECT THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE FAVOR AND OPPOSED THE SCREEN BACK THERE VERSUS.

YES. NO.

OH, NO. WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT.

BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHAT IT SAYS IN THE SCRIPT.

EXACTLY. AND SO IT DOESN'T.

YES. FIVE.

YES. [INAUDIBLE] NO, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T SOUND VERY, VERY GLAMOROUS, BUT WHATEVER.

I JUST. YEAH, OKAY.

THEY DIDN'T ASK ME ARE WRITTEN THERE. THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE NORMALLY WRITTEN TO BE APPROVED OR NOT APPROVED.

YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MAKES SENSE THAT IT IS YES NO NOW.

RIGHT. YES.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE.

YEAH. THAT THE BOARD I MEAN, I GUESS THE RESPONSE TO THAT COULD BE YES.

NO. AS OPPOSED TO FOR OR AGAINST APPROVAL.

BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO THERE'S REALLY NO WAY.

IT HAS TO BE. YES. NO, IT CAN'T BE.

YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACCESS TO THAT PART OF THE SYSTEM TO TWEAK IT.

WE CANNOT CHANGE IT. OKAY.

I WAS JUST REALLY DISTRACTED AND I CAN WE TOUCH BASE WITH THEM AND GET THAT AMENDED? BECAUSE THAT, TO ME, IS A PROBLEM IN ALL OF OUR SCRIPTING AND DIALOG.

AND SO.

WE CAN PUT IN A REQUEST.

WELL, I IMAGINE THEY'RE GOING TO SAY NO, BECAUSE THIS IS HOW IT IS AND THIS IS WHAT WE'VE SOLD TO CUSTOMERS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

BUT WE CAN. WE CAN ASK.

ANYWAY, I JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.

THANK YOU. SORRY. TRUSTEE BAKER, YOU WERE UP NEXT? SO AS I WAS A LITTLE SLOW ABOUT SO WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY FOUR UP THERE AND SO I WAS A LITTLE SLOW.

THEN I BELIEVE YOU WOULD REQUEST TO SPEAK.

I DIDN'T GET TO ENTER MY VOTE.

OKAY. AND THEN DORIS COULD MANUALLY ENTER YOUR VOTE.

OKAY. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A WORKABLE SOLUTION.

THANK YOU. BECAUSE SO. IF THE VOTE CLOSED BEFORE SOMEBODY VOTED, WE WOULD NEED TO ALERT AT THAT MOMENT.

WE CLOSED THE VOTE TECHNICALLY AND LET'S SAY IT PASSED.

I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO DO A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.

IF WE HAVEN'T CLOSED THE VOTE, THEN WE CAN RECORD THE VOTE OR YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A YES.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE BOARD DO A WHOLE MOTION TO RECONSIDER BECAUSE IT'S TWO MORE VOTES.

BUT TECHNICALLY, ONCE THE VOTE HAS CLOSED, YOU CAN'T JUST CHANGE THE TALLY OF WHAT THE VOTE WAS BECAUSE YOUR VOTE WASN'T IN THERE.

SO PAY ATTENTION.

VOTE. SO WE NEED TO COUNT THEM BEFORE WE CLOSE IT.

YES.

GO.

THAT IF YOU COULD, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SEE ALL OF THE VOTES.

IF YOU DON'T, YOU'LL KNOW WHO'S UP HERE.

IF YOU SEE THAT EVERYBODY UP HERE HASN'T VOTED RIGHT ANOTHER THING THAT YOU COULD DO IS PERHAPS ALLOW YOU TO SAY AS A REGULAR, HAVE ALL TRUSTEES VOTED ON GETTING READY TO CLOSE THE

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VOTE OR IN 30 SECONDS I'M GETTING READY TO CLOSE THE VOTE.

SO IF SOMEONE HAS LEFT TO GO TO THE RESTROOM AND THEY COME BACK, THEY CAN QUICKLY COME IN AND VOTE.

BUT YOU COULD JUST MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT.

SO THAT WILL THAT'S WHAT SOME LARGER BODIES DO.

YES. ALL AFTER. NO, IT'S SOMEONE IS LITERALLY COMING BACK AND AND I'M NOT SAYING WAY.

EXACTLY. I'M NOT SAYING WHAT EXACTLY.

DOES EVERYBODY SEE THE VOTING SCREEN? YES. PERFECT.

GO AHEAD AND VOTE. SO THIS IS THE AMENDED AMENDMENT NOW.

WE'LL NOW VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.

CORRECT.

ARE YOU REDOING, AREN'T YOU.

THEY WENT. [INAUDIBLE] YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

BECAUSE THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.

YES, WE'RE ALSO AT 157 AND DORIS HAS A HARD STOP AT TWO.

SO PLEASE VOTE.

AND THEN LISA, THERE'D BE ANOTHER ONE VOTING ON THE ORIGINAL ITEM AS AMENDED, WHICH YOU'VE NOW AMENDED TWICE.

YES, WE HAVE FIVE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND ZERO ABSTENTIONS.

WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO CLOSE IT BECAUSE THAT IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE LAST TWO VOTES HAVE NOT WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO DISCUSS, THIS MEETING OF THE BOARD IS ADJOURNED.

THE TIME IS 1:58 P.M.

ON JANUARY 19, 2023.



* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.