Nov 15, 2022 Special Board Meetings / Audit Committee

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WARD'S AUDIT COMMITTEE IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER FOR THE PURPOSES STATED IN THE DULY POSTED MEETING.

NOTICE THE TIME IS 9:02 A.M..

COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT IN THE BOARD AUDITORIUM ARE TRUSTEE WADE, TRUSTEE SANTOS, TRUSTEE CRUZ MYSELF AND ALSO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBER, LIZ LOGAN.

WE DON'T HAVE LEGAL QUESTION.

QUORUM IS A QUORUM OF THE COMMITTEE CORRECTLY SO.

OF THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

I'M SORRY TO CALL IT TO.

BOARD MEETING. APPROVE AND.

WHICH MINUTES ARE YOUR AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING THEN? OF THE COMMITTEE? OKAY.

DO I HAVE A. IT IS NOT A.

OKAY. THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2022?

[CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS]

PLEASE VOTE.

RAISE OF HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE NOW COME TO THE PORTION OF OUR MEETING WHERE WE HEAR FROM SPEAKERS TO SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS. HOWEVER, WE HAVE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS TODAY, SO WE ARE NOW READY TO CONSIDER BUSINESS ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION AND I'VE PUT THEM IN A LITTLE DIFFERENT OF AN ORDER THAN WHAT IS ON HERE AND IS ALEXIS WITH US TODAY? SHE. YES, PLEASE.

SORRY. I NEVER KNOW HOW TO DO THIS ON THIS DEVICE.

SO THE FIRST THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS.

WELL, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR ALEXIS, WE'LL SKIP OVER THAT.

[STATUS UPDATE FOR THE 2021 INTERNAL AUDIT PLAN]

[STATUS UPDATE FOR THE 2022 INTERNAL AUDIT PLAN]

THE STATUS UPDATE FOR THE 21 AND 22.

FISCAL YEARS.

AND SO AND JUST TO KEEP US ON TRACK, WE HAVE A HARD STOP AT 11:00 TO MAKE SURE WE COVER ALL OF OUR BUSINESS TODAY.

I HAVE ALLOTTED ABOUT 5 MINUTES FOR THIS ITEM.

IF WE NEED TO GO OVER, WE CAN WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.

BUT IF WE COULD GET A QUICK UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE ON 21 AND 22.

THAT'S. UM, ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THE AUDIT PLAN STATUS FOR THE TWO FISCAL YEARS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE FIVE LEFT FOR 2021 AND WE HAVE 24 THAT ARE IN PROCESS FOR 2022.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT OF THE 24, SOME ARE IN THE AUDIT REPORT PHASE GOING THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MY COLLEAGUES.

WHAT PAGE IS THIS IN THE 20? THANK YOU. AND OF THE FIVE, WE ISSUED ONE REPORT YESTERDAY.

SO THAT FIVE IS REALLY FOUR NOW.

CHIEF BLACKWELL WE DON'T HAVE A LIST.

OR IS THAT ON THE DASHBOARD LIKE YOU USUALLY HAVE? WHAT'S THE SPECIFIC ONES THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND NOT COMPLETED? WE PREPARED THAT LIST THE ONES THAT THE LIST OF AUDIT.

THE NORMALLY.

FOR THE QUESTIONS. WE NORMALLY PREPARE THE LIST.

BUT LAST MEETING, WE DID NOT HAVE THE LIST.

SO BUT IF YOU GUYS NEED THE DETAILS, WE CAN PROVIDE AFTER THIS MEETING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

AND THEN JUST AS A FOLLOW UP, IF YOU DON'T MIND PUTTING THE CHART BACK UP, CHIEF BLACKWELL, PLEASE.

JUST LIKE THE CHART OR THE THE PIE CHART.

SO OF THE 2021, THE 2020- 2021.

ON THE LEFT IN PROCESS, IT SHOWS FIVE OUT OF THE 34 THAT ARE STILL NOT COMPLETE.

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GOOD. AND WHAT IS THE TIMELINE THAT YOU ANTICIPATE THE OTHER FOUR TO BE COMPLETED? FOR THE OTHER FOUR, WE'RE TALKING WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

YEAH, JOHN. SEEING THE THREE OF THEM ARE MINE.

I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT YOU HAVE TO SPEAK IN THE MIKE.

PLEASE. I'M SORRY.

OKAY. THERE IS ONE REPORT CALLED COVID REPORT ON EFFECTS ON CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.

THAT ONE GARLAND HAS FOR REVIEW.

YATES, YOU GOT YESTERDAY FROM MELINDA.

WHARTON DUAL LANGUAGE ACADEMY.

YOU WILL BE GETTING BY FRIDAY.

AND THERE'S ONE OTHER ONE GOD BLESS.

YOUNG WOMEN'S, I THINK THAT'S A 2022 YOU HAVE SO FOR REVIEW.

SO THOSE CAN PROBABLY BE DONE BY FRIDAY.

THE ONLY OTHER ONE IN THE FIVE ON 2021 THAT'S UNDER MY PURVIEW IS SAM HOUSTON.

AND LET'S JUST SAY I HAD TO GO BACK AFTER DOING A REVIEW ON THOSE WORK PAPERS BY A FORMER EMPLOYEE AND START THE AUDIT OVER AGAIN.

I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.

AND THEN OF THE ONES ON THE RIGHT FOR THE 2021 2022 SCHOOL YEAR.

24 ARE STILL IN PROCESS AND THEY ARE IN VARIOUS STAGES FROM ACTUAL AUDIT WORK ALL THE WAY THROUGH DRAFT REPORTS FOR REVIEW.

AND HOW MANY ARE IN THE DRAFT REPORT.

HAVE THE LIST OF THAT, BUT I CAN GET IT FOR YOU.

IT'S JUST A HANDFUL THOUGH.

OKAY. AND THEN DO WE KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE CARRYOVERS ARE IN THE 2023 AUDIT PLAN? SO THAT WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MY QUESTION IS I MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT I THOUGHT WHEN WE PASSED THE FISCAL YEAR 23 AUDIT PLAN THAT SOME OF THESE OLDER AUDITS, LIKE INSTEAD OF ALWAYS BEING IN ARREARS AND CATCHING UP, THAT WE WERE JUST STARTING OVER WITH THIS FISCAL YEAR 23 AUDIT PLAN WITH THESE OLDER AUDITS INCORPORATED IN IT, DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF MISUNDERSTANDING AND TRUTHFULNESS BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME THAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES SENSE SINCE WE'RE AVAILABLE TO DO IT NOW, JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL JANUARY.

WHY WOULD WE WAIT UNTIL JANUARY TO START THE FISCAL YEAR 23 AUDIT PLAN? NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD.

YOU SAID INSTEAD OF STARTING TO JUST DO THESE NOW, INSTEAD OF STARTING IN JANUARY, INSTEAD OF OR WAITING UNTIL JANUARY, WHY WOULD YOU WAIT TILL JANUARY TO START THE FISCAL YEAR? NO I WAS SAYING THAT FOR AUDITS FOR THE YEAR, WE'RE IN FOR 2022.

INSTEAD OF WAITING TILL JANUARY TO TRY TO COMPLETE THOSE, WE'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD TO TRY TO COMPLETE THOSE.

AND THE ONES THAT WE DIDN'T THINK WE COULD GET DONE BY DECEMBER, WE PUT INTO THE NEXT YEAR.

OKAY. SO THAT'S MAYBE WHERE MY MISUNDERSTANDING IS COMING FROM, BECAUSE AT SOME POINT WE SHIFTED.

SO ARE WE WORKING OFF OF A FISCAL YEAR FOR OUR AUDIT PLAN OR A CALENDAR YEAR? FISCAL. SO THE FISCAL YEAR GOES FROM JULY 1ST TO JUNE 30TH? YES. SO I'M STILL CONFUSED ABOUT JANUARY.

SO. SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE PLANNING TO WORK ON FISCAL YEAR 2022, WHICH ENDED JUNE 30.

YES. YOU'RE PLANNING ON WORKING ON THOSE THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST? CORRECT. SO MAYBE, JIM, FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN HERE IF YOU'VE GOT A PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT I'M NOT RECALLING CORRECTLY. SO WE APPROVED THE FISCAL YEAR 23 AUDIT PLAN, REALLY 23 AND 24 AUDIT PLAN LAST MONTH.

HOW MANY OF THE AUDITS IN THIS 2021 AND 2122 FISCAL YEAR 21 AND FISCAL YEAR 22 ARE IN THAT AUDIT PLAN. AND WERE THERE ANY.

THAT WE DECIDED WE DIDN'T NEED TO DO.

DO YOU WANT. I DON'T THINK WE PUSHED ANY FROM 2021 INTO THE NEXT.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, TRUSTEE.

IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU. SUPERINTENDENT HOUSE.

GOOD MORNING. WE HAD.

I'M JUST PULLING UP THE THE PLAN THAT WE REVIEWED WITH THE BOARD A MONTH AGO, AND WE DID HAVE 30 PRIOR YEAR AUDITS THAT WERE IN PROGRESS, WHICH I THINK

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I THINK AT ONE POINT IT WAS 30 WE WERE TARGETING OR GARLAND'S TARGETING TO COMPLETE THOSE BY THE END OF DECEMBER AND THEN WE WOULD ROLL INTO JANUARY.

I THINK THIS IS WHERE JANUARY IS GETTING CONFUSED.

WE ROLL INTO JANUARY OF 2023 WITH THE NEW AUDITS PER SAY.

THE AUDITS THAT WE IDENTIFIED ACCORDING TO THE RISK ASSESSMENT.

GOT IT. OKAY.

OKAY. THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL.

CAN I ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION? YEP. SO, CHIEF BLACKWELL, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE SO IT'S 29 OR IS 28 CAN BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF DECEMBER? IT CAN BE IF I GET SOME TEMPORARY AUDITORS IN PLACE.

AND, SUPERINTENDENT, I TALKED ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY AND WE BOTH AGREED THAT'S THE WAY WE SHOULD GO.

SORRY. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH ALEXIS TO GET SOME TEMPORARY AUDITORS IN HERE TO TRY TO FINISH AS MANY AS WE CAN BY DECEMBER 31ST.

MY HOPE AND EXPECTATION JUST AFTER I WAS WAS THAT SUPPORT WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE BEFOREHAND.

BUT GARLAND AND I DID TALK ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.

I WAS A LITTLE. BUT I THINK HE NEEDS TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL THAT HE HAS THE LEEWAY AND HE DOESN'T NEED, YOU KNOW, MY GREEN LIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD.

WELL, AND I THINK THAT HAD BEEN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AN APPROVED LIST, CORRECT.

THROUGH A PREVIOUS RFQ OF A LIST OF EXTERNAL AUDIT FIRMS. AND YOU HAVE THE BUDGET TO OUTSOURCE THOSE INDIVIDUAL AUDITS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. SO WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM THIS COMMITTEE? I, I THINK WE ALL FULLY APPRECIATE THIS TRANSITIONAL SPACE THAT WE'RE IN AND THE STAFFING CHALLENGES THAT THAT PRESENTS FOR YOU.

BUT THAT DO YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT YOU NEED IN OTHER WAYS TO COMPLETE THESE AUDITS? AND IF NOT, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? I HAVE THE RESOURCES TO COMPLETE THE AUDIT.

SO THE QUESTION WAS FOR US AS AN AUDIT TEAM IS HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO BE HERE? SO IF IT WAS GOING TO BE THROUGH DECEMBER, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT PRESENTS ITS OWN CHALLENGES.

BUT IF IT'S IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE FOR THE FIRST QUARTER AT LEAST, THEN IT MAKES SENSE, IN MY OPINION, TO GET THOSE RESOURCES IN HERE AND LET'S GET GET MOVING WITH THEM. OKAY. AND WE'RE GOING TO LIKE I SAID, I SWITCHED UP THE ORDER.

AND NOW THAT ALEXIS IS HERE, WE CAN GO BACK TO WHAT I THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR US TO SORT OUT IS WHAT IS OUR PLAN GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD? OKAY. JUST LET IT GO.

YEAH. JOHN, WHY DON'T YOU IF YOU'RE.

IF YOU ALL ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING, JUST COME SIT UP FRONT.

UNLESS YOU'RE AFRAID OF GERMS. OH, THEY'RE PROBABLY AFRAID OF ME.

ALL I WANT TO SAY IS THAT I WAS TALKING TO MY SENIOR STAFF AUDITOR, MELINDA RANSOM, THE OTHER DAY.

I WAS OUT SPEAKING OF BEING AFRAID OF GERMS. AND THERE WERE FOUR AUDITS ON THIS REPORT FROM THIS ALVAREZ AND MARSH ON CONSTRUCTION AUDIT THAT ROLL INTO NEXT YEAR AND THOSE ACCORDING TO WHAT MELINDA SAID.

AUSTIN GOES AS FAR AS JUNE.

THEN EASTWOOD ACADEMY, NORTH SIDE AND BT WASHINGTON GO TILL MARCH 31ST.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE THEY HAD THIS LITTLE CHART WITH THESE LITTLE BOXES FOR EACH QUARTER.

AND MELINDA POINTED THAT OUT TO ME WHEN I WAS AT HOME.

I'VE BEEN WORKING AT HOME FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT ON THE CONSTRUCTION AUDIT SIDE.

CHAIRMAN, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.

PARDON? BEHIND YOU.

OH, I'M NOT MR. ALVAREZ, BUT. NO.

YEAH, THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S IT? YEAH. NO, THIS IS THE CHART HERE.

AND WHAT WHAT THE CHART WAS REFERRING TO IS THE PLAN THAT WE SUBMITTED TO YOU.

AND YEAH, WE SO WE THESE ARE THE AUDITS THAT ARE IN PROCESS.

AND BOOKER T WASHINGTON, WE HAD AN ESTIMATE OF LIKE JUST UNDER 300 HOURS TO COMPLETE.

YES. SO THAT'S LIKE A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS IF YOU'RE WORKING FULL TIME GOES TO QUARTER THREE IN THE FISCAL YEAR.

SO WE WE ESTIMATED THAT YOU CAN DO IT IF YOU CAN IF YOU CAN KNOCK OUT THOSE 300 HOURS QUICKER, THEN I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD WE WOULD PROPOSE DOING.

AND AND I GUESS YOU HAD BOOKER T OR AUSTIN WITH 400 HOURS TO COMPLETE.

YEAH. AUSTIN IS GOING TO BE A TOTAL REDO BASED ON THE EMPLOYEE PROBLEM EMPLOYEE I HAD PREVIOUSLY.

BUT KNOW THAT MY, MY SENIOR AUDITOR MELINDA AND I ARE THE ONLY TWO LEFT

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WE'RE DOWN TWO PEOPLE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE TRYING TO PRIORITIZE THESE THINGS, AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT I'M HEARING, DO I HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR MY COLLEAGUES? NO. OKAY. WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE PLAN IS TO COMPLETE THESE.

IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE LESS THAN 30 NOW BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT YOU NEED.

GARLAND, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE TIMELINE IS.

AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT.

SORRY. I WENT TO SLEEP.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO JUMP.

[PROCESS FOR THE 2023–2024 INTERNAL AUDIT PLAN]

LISA, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS TO BE IN CLOSED SESSION OR IF IT CAN BE IN OPEN SESSION.

THE PLAN IS TO TALK ABOUT THE SCOPE FOR THE RFQ, THE PROCESS AND THE TIMELINE.

SO I ANTICIPATED THAT IT WOULD BE IN CLOSED SESSION SINCE IT'S NOT ON THE STREET JUST YET, BUT WE'RE WITHIN THE CODE OF SILENCE.

SO THAT'S THE WAY YOUR POSITION IN THIS ROOM.

AND JUST ASK THE FOLKS THAT SHOULDN'T BE IN CLOSED SESSION.

THAT'D BE A QUESTION FOR BOARD SERVICES IN TERMS OF TECHNOLOGY.

BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AN AUDIT COMMITTEE MEMBER PARTICIPATING BY ZOOM.

OK. OKAY.

ALSO, JUST FYI, THE VIDEO IS NOT WORKING FROM THE BOARDROOM, SO I CAN HEAR YOU GUYS, BUT I CAN'T SEE YOU.

OK. WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.

[CLOSED SESSION]

SO I DON'T KNOW.

WE'RE GOING TO STAY IN THIS ROOM BECAUSE I THINK IT'S EASIER TO EXIT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT IT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE TO STAY THAN TO.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHO THOSE ARE.

WE. I KNOW WE NEED GARLAND AND ALEXIS AND JIM FOR SURE.

ARE YOU ASKING THE ADMINISTRATION WHO ELSE NEEDS TO BE FROM FROM THEIR STANDPOINT? SURE. MILLARD AND GARLAND, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT YOU FEEL LIKE NEEDS TO STAY FOR THIS CONVERSATION? I THINK EVERYBODY IS AS APPROPRIATE TO STAY WITH STAFF.

I THINK WE'RE JUST FINE. OKAY.

SUPER QUICK.

ARE YOU OKAY? CAN YOU AT LEAST HEAR ME, ELIZABETH? HERE. AND SO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE CHARTER ANNUAL REVIEW.

[AUDIT COMMITTEE CHARTER ANNUAL REVIEW]

THIS IS THE DOCUMENT THAT GOVERNS THE FUNCTION OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.

OKAY. SO TRUSTEE SAYS SHE'S JUST EMAILED A COPY TO EVERYBODY.

IT'S NOT A SUPER SHORT DOCUMENT.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION ON THIS WOULD BE FOR THIS YEAR'S COMMITTEE TO BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE YEAR, REVIEW THIS AND TYPE UP RECOMMENDATIONS TO GIVE TO NEXT YEAR'S COMMITTEE TO THEN MAKE TO CONSIDER UPDATES TO IT IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.

THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY.

AND THEN THE AUDIT COMMITTEE ANNUAL REPORT.

MADAM CHAIR, CAN I IN REVIEWING YOUR CHARTER, I THINK THE PROCEDURAL SECTIONS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY MEMBERS YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, CAN THEY SUCCEED THEMSELVES IN OFFICE? QUALIFICATIONS.

I THINK ALL OF THOSE ARE WORKING WELL FOR YOU.

IT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'VE BEEN USING.

THE ABILITY OF THIS BODY TO RECOMMEND COMMUNITY MEMBER WITH A BACKGROUND AND AUDIT IS WORKING WELL FROM FROM YOU WHERE YOU GUYS COULD SPEND SOME TIME BECAUSE YOU WERE WORKING ON THIS CHARTER IN CONJUNCTION WITH MR. BLACKWELL AND YOU REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL CONTROLS AND THE TYPES OF REPORTS, SEE IF IT'S TOO BROAD OR TOO NARROW, I THINK THOSE WOULD BE THE AREAS.

IT'S A LONG DOCUMENT, BUT IF YOU FOCUS ON THE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES AND REPORTS THAT THIS BODY REGULARLY REVIEWS, NOW THAT YOU KNOW YOU'VE HAD YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF YEARS UNDER YOUR BELTS, I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU COULD FOCUS AND SPEND SOME TIME.

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I THINK ALL OF THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR PRACTICE, BUT IT'S THOSE AREAS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME TO SAY, HEY, WE DON'T DO THIS, OR MAYBE WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS.

THIS IS IN OUR CHARTER AND WE HAVEN'T DONE IT.

WE NEED TO DO IT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DO YOU WANT US TO WAIT FOR YOU, JUDITH? NO. OKAY, THAT'S FAIR.

WELL, BUT I NEED YOU FOR THE NEXT ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CHARTER.

SOME OF IT IS ABOUT WORDING.

LISA, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT ALMOST MAKES US A POLICY COMMITTEE LIKE GOING THROUGH AND AUDITING THE POLICIES AND SO FORTH.

THAT TO ME READS AS IF WE'RE A POLICY COMMITTEE.

BUT THAT'S THE TYPE OF RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'RE COMING BACK WITH IN JUST WHEN DID YOU SAY DECEMBER? BEFORE THE END OF DECEMBER.

MY MY. WHAT I RECOMMENDED WAS FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO TYPE THEM UP.

AND JUST SO THAT THE NEXT COMMITTEE HAS YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND I HEARD YOU, LISA, THANK YOU.

AND IF YOU FEEL LIKE THERE IS ANY WORDING I'M SO GLAD YOU BROUGHT YOU SAID THAT TRUSTEE SANTOS THAT MAKES THIS COMMITTEE SEEM LIKE IT'S POLICY MAKING OR A FINAL DECISION MAKER.

THAT'S A RED FLAG BECAUSE THIS COMMITTEE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EITHER OF THOSE.

SO BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.

THAT'S ONE THING THAT GARLAND AND THE ORIGINAL COMMITTEE THAT WORKED ON THIS TRIED TO GET OUT OF THE CHARTER.

BUT WE CAN ALWAYS USE AN ADDITIONAL SET OF EYES BECAUSE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT UNDER YOUR LONE STAR GOVERNANCE SYSTEM AND THE APPROPRIATE ROLE OF A COMMITTEE.

SO THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.

THAT'S A GOOD CATCH. AND IF YOU SEE ANY OF THAT, LET US KNOW.

ALL RIGHT. SO REALLY QUICK THEN THERE IS THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.

[AUDIT COMMITTEE ANNUAL REPORT]

SUPER QUICK. DO YOU WANT TO TELL US WHAT THAT IS? MADAM PRESIDENT.

SORRY. I WAITED INTENTIONALLY WAITED TILL YOU HAD COOKIE IN YOUR MOUTH.

THAT WAS THE OTHER THING I NEEDED TO EMAIL YOU ON.

I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE. SO EVERY DECEMBER.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DECEMBER AGENDA FROM LAST YEAR, ANY PRIOR YEARS, THE AUDIT COMMITTEE PROVIDES AN ANNUAL REPORT TO THE FULL BOARD.

AND IT'S JUST LIKE A CALENDAR, LIKE A TIMELINE OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BIG BUCKETS THAT WERE DISCUSSED THAT WERE ACCOMPLISHED.

IT INCLUDES ATTENDANCE OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

AND THEN I THINK JUST ANY LIKE FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS.

SO IT'S NOT A VERY LENGTHY REPORT.

I WANT TO SAY MAYBE FIVE PAGES OR SO IN LENGTH.

SO I'LL LOOK THAT UP AND SEND THAT TO YOU ALL AS WELL.

SO THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED.

I MEAN, I THINK YOU'RE GETTING THE DECEMBER BOARD AGENDA PACKET TODAY, BUT WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT'S COMPLETED BEFORE THE POSTING FOR AGENDA REVIEW WHICH WOULD BE WHEN.

IT'S DECEMBER 1ST IS YOU REMEMBER 28.

AND BACK IT UP FOR.

IT'S DECEMBER. DECEMBER 1ST IS AGENDA REVIEW, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE READY FOR THE POSTING OF AGENDA REVIEW.

POSTING IS NOVEMBER 28.

OKAY. SO THAT NOVEMBER 20.

OKAY. AND SO I WILL GO AHEAD YOU.

PRESIDENT CRUZ, YOU'VE SENT SOMETHING YOU SENT LAST YEAR TO ALL OF US.

I'M ABOUT TO OK SO I'LL GO AHEAD AS CHAIR AND DRAFT SOMETHING UP AND SEND IT TO THE TWO OF YOU FOR ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK NEEDS TO BE ADDED OR CHANGED.

AND WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY.

LISA YES, OKAY.

AND MADAM CHAIR, IF I COULD GIVE SOME KUDOS TO BOARD SERVICES, I'VE GONE AND LOOKED AT YOUR AUDIT COMMITTEE WEBSITE AND THAT WEBSITE HAS THE CURRENT VERSION OF YOUR CHARTER ON IT.

EVERY SINGLE ANNUAL REPORT THAT GETS ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY THE BOARD DATING BACK TO 2018.

IT'S GOT YOUR DASHBOARD, THE PUBLIC FACING PART OF THE DASHBOARD, ALL OF YOUR AGENDAS AND ALL OF YOUR MINUTES RIGHT THERE ON THAT WEBSITE, WHICH ARE THE THINGS THAT IN YOUR AUDIT CHARTER YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DELIVERING EVERY YEAR.

SO YOUR WEBSITE IS DOING A VERY GOOD JOB OF REFLECTING THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THIS BODY AND WHAT THIS BODY IS SUPPOSED TO BE DELIVERING BACK TO THE BOARD IN A VERY CLEAR WAY.

YES. THANK YOU.

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THAT WE CAN. WE THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

SO WE WILL STAY AND WE'LL LET'S GET THROUGH WHAT WE HAVE HERE.

AND THEN IF WE'VE GOT ANYTHING ELSE THAT LEGALLY WE CAN TALK ABOUT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

SO THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE, IT'S 1011.

I THINK WE'RE DOING WELL ON TIME.

AUDIT OF ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2122.

[AUDIT OF ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021–2022]

OKAY. SO, COLLEAGUES, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FINDINGS OF THAT? AND IF YOU COULD PLEASE PROVIDE SOME CLARITY, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING I APPARENTLY WAS I THINK MANY OF US LAST WEEK WERE A LITTLE FUZZY ON.

THIS IS NOT AN AUDIT THAT ORIGINATES FROM THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT AND ORIGINATES FROM THE FINANCE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

CORRECT. THE THE REPORT ITSELF.

YES. THE KAFFIR IS A CFO RESPONSIBILITY.

SO THE KAFFIR IS THE CFO'S RESPONSIBILITY, NOT THE CHIEF AUDIT EXECUTIVES RESPONSIBILITY.

DOES THAT NORMALLY COME TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE BEFORE IT'S PRESENTED TO THE FULL BOARD? MOST OF THE TIME. IN THE PAST, YES, MOST OF THE TIME.

DID I MISS AN EMAIL? NOT SURE. WELL, WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS DID DID DID SOMEONE REMIND ME THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE AN AUDIT MEETING ABOUT THIS BEFORE LAST WEEK'S MEETING? AND DID I MISS AN EMAIL THAT SLIPPED THROUGH THE PROVERBIAL CRACKERS, SO TO SPEAK? WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT FIRST AND THEN TO THE FULL BOARD.

OKAY, SO THAT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING MAYBE WE NEED TO PUT IN THE CHARTER.

YEAH. AND I THINK YOU AND I HAD DISCUSSED IT AS AUDIT CHAIR AND BOARD CHAIR THAT THERE JUST WASN'T TIME TO DO A MEETING BEFORE.

AND DID WE WANT TO SPEND THE TIME DISCUSSING IT TWO DIFFERENT TIMES AS WELL.

AND MADAM CHAIR, IT'S ALREADY IN YOUR CHARTER THAT YOU DO REVIEW, THAT YOU REVIEW THE ANNUAL AND ANY INTERIM KIND OF FINANCIAL AUDITS, THE MECHANICS OF HOW THAT GETS DONE AND WHEN IT SUBMITTED TO THIS COMMITTEE IS PROBABLY NOT APPROPRIATE TO BE IN A CHARTER.

THAT'S JUST THE MECHANICS JUST NEED TO BE WORKED OUT SO THAT YOU THAT YOU HIT THE RIGHT TIMING EVERY TIME.

CAN I JUST ADD SOMETHING? I THINK THE THE CHALLENGE WAS WE JUST DIDN'T GET THE REPORT AS A FULL BOARD UNTIL THE DAY BEFORE.

SO WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD DISCUSSED IT AS A COMMITTEE OR AS A FULL BOARD, WE REALLY NEEDED A WAY IN ADVANCE.

AND I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO THE AGENDA PREP CALENDAR.

EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS.

ALL ITEMS NEED TO BE PROVIDED TO THE BOARD AT THE TIME THE BOARD RECEIVES THE BINDER.

AND SO. SO WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE THAT AUDIT REPORT? GETTING TO THE FULL IS THAT CHIEF BLACKWELL OR CHIEF REED FOR THAT SPECIFIC FINANCIAL AUDIT? I DON'T EVEN HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT.

THAT IS ALL. WEAVER.

WE HAVE NEVER GOTTEN THAT REPORT BEFORE.

THE EARLIEST WE'VE GOTTEN IS THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE REGULAR MEETING THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY ISSUED THAT FINAL REPORT.

THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO CONTINUE AUDITING ALL THE WAY UP TO APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET, MEAN SORRY, APPROVAL OF THE OF THE AQUIFER.

SO I DON'T CONTROL THAT, EVEN THAT TIMELINE.

SO THERE'S THEY WILL THERE'S THEY WILL NOT HAVE THAT READY BACK IN AND WHAT OCTOBER.

OKAY SO WE CAN'T EVEN ASK THEM IN FUTURE YEARS.

THIS IS OUR OK BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE AUDITING.

SO EVEN WHEN WE EVEN WHEN WE SEND YOU ALL THAT COPY ON WEDNESDAY, IF YOU NOTICED UP IN THE CORNER THERE WAS SOME A RED NOTE ABOUT IT NOT BEING THE FINAL, FINAL ACT FOR SO THEY THEY'LL GET TO THE EARLIEST WE CAN PROBABLY GET TO IS IS THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE REGULAR MEETING.

WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE DOING THAT WORK AND THOSE AND ALSO APPROVING ALL THOSE SCHEDULES.

SO AND IT'S EXTREMELY TIME CONSUMING.

SO AND THEY HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT UP TO THE END.

AND IMAGINE IF THEY TRY TO GET IT BACK IN OCTOBER, THEN THEY GOT TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE MAKE CHANGES.

THEY DON'T EVEN FINISH THAT MANAGEMENT LETTER THAT THEY IT'S UP IN THE BEGINNING UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE.

OKAY. THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.

SO THERE WAS TWO PARTS.

THERE WAS THE FINANCIAL REPORT, THEN THERE WAS THE AUDIT OF THE FINANCIAL REPORT, AND WE GOT BOTH OF THOSE.

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YEAH, THE WHOLE THING IS THE COMPREHENSIVE REPORT, THE AUDIT.

THE AUDIT IS THEY ALSO ARE AUDITING THE STATEMENTS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE STATEMENTS ARE TRUE AND ACCURATE.

RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN MAIN PURPOSES AS WELL.

SO IT'S ONE OF THE SAME.

OK. IS COLLEAGUES, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THAT REPORT THAT YOU HAD, ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS IT'S STILL OUTSTANDING TO ASK ABOUT.

NO. OKAY. NEXT UP IS.

THE QUALITY ASSURANCE INTERNAL ASSESSMENT.

[QUALITY ASSURANCE INTERNAL ASSESSMENT]

WE HAVE A OBLIGATION TO HAVE OUR AUDIT DEPARTMENT AUDITED EVERY FIVE YEARS AS A MINIMUM.

SO THE LAST TIME IT WAS DONE WAS IN 2020.

THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE 2025.

IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO TIMES, WE DO INTERNAL ASSESSMENTS OF OURSELVES AND BASED ON THE WORK THAT WE DID, WE GRADED OURSELVES AS GENERALLY CONFORMS, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST RATING POSSIBLE. THAT'S THE SAME RATING THAT WE GOT IN 2020 BY THE INSTITUTE OF INTERNAL AUDITORS.

WE HAD FIVE OR SIX AREAS THAT WE NEED TO SHORE UP ON AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT AND THEN WE WILL ASSESS OURSELVES AGAIN BEFORE 2025. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES.

I HAVE ONE. DO WE GET A LIST OF WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE? WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY KIND OF REPORT THAT GOES WITH THAT? WE CAN GIVE YOU EVERYTHING THAT WE GENERATED INTERNALLY.

SO WE HAVE A REPORT OURSELVES FOR US TO USE TO GET OURSELVES BETTER IN THOSE AREAS THAT WE NEED TO SHORE UP ON.

IT'S JUST A SMALL LIST.

WE DID AS WELL AS THE AS THE ANNUAL OR THE EXTERNAL ASSESSMENT DONE IN 2020.

SO IT'S ABOUT AN INTERNAL ASSESSMENT THIS YEAR.

BUT YOU HAVE YOUR OWN INTERNAL.

YEAH. I MEAN IF THAT COULD BE SHARED WITH WITH US, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

WELL, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? THANK YOU SO MUCH. SURE.

AND JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION.

AND MR. HOUSE. I THINK WE HAD A SLIDE FOR THE AREA.

WE NEED TO REMEDIATE IT.

WE HAVE FIVE STANDARDS.

WE PARTIALLY CONFORMED.

WE HAVE PLANNED TO MEDIATE, REMEDIATE IT.

IF WE ARE HERE, WE HAVE THE PLAN TO REMEDIATE IT BY 2023.

WOULD YOU GUYS SHOW THE SLIDES? I THINK WE HAVE A SLIDE SHOWING THE FIVE STANDARDS THAT WE ARE PARTIALLY CONFORMED.

THERE WE GO. SO THIS IS THE TERMINAL ASSESSMENT THAT I WAS JUST TELLING YOU ABOUT.

AND LEE LED THAT EFFORT.

YOU CAN SEE THAT WE WERE MOSTLY GENERALLY FORMS WITH ALL THE GREEN THAT YOU SEE, THAT THOSE YELLOW MARKS WHERE WE RATED OURSELVES AS PARTIALLY CONFORMED AND WE NEED TO SHOW THOSE.

SO THIS IS WHAT I JUST ASKED YOU TO SEND US.

WE ALREADY HAVE. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. SURE.

ANY TIME. AND YOU SAID YOU'RE PLANNING TO REMEDY THESE.

PRESUMING IT STAYS IN HOUSE, YOU'RE PLANNING TO REMEDY THESE IN 2023 AT THE VERY LATEST.

IF WE CAN GET IT DONE BY DECEMBER, WE WILL.

BUT MY GUESS IS SOME OF THESE WILL PROBABLY FLOW OVER INTO THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE NEXT CALENDAR YEAR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON.

[STATUS UPDATE FOR AUDIT RECOMMENDATIONS/AUDIT DASHBOARD]

SEE THE LIST.

I BELIEVE THIS IS THE ONE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, MADAM CHAIR.

I AM. THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU GAVE US.

SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON.

[00:35:05]

MANAGEMENT RESOLVES THOSE AUDIT FINDINGS AND THEN EVIDENCE OF THOSE BEING RESOLVED.

WE RECEIVE FROM MANAGEMENT AND THEN UPLOAD IT INTO THE AUDIT DASHBOARD.

WHEN THIS PROBLEM CAME TO OUR ATTENTION, I BELIEVE IT WAS BACK IN APRIL, WE HAD 471 ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE CLOSED 335 OF THOSE.

WE HAVE 98 THAT WE ARE ENDEAVORING TO GET DONE BY MID DECEMBER AND THEN THE REMAINING 38 GOING INTO MARCH 20, 23.

QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES.

WELL, THEN. ALL RIGHT.

AND I THINK THE LAST ONE LAST ITEM YOU HAD WAS AUDIT STAFFING.

[INTERNAL AUDIT STAFFING]

LET ME JUST CUT IT SHORT.

SO I HAVE NOT INCLUDING MYSELF.

I HAVE 16 POSITIONS IN THE INTERNAL AUDIT DEPARTMENT.

OF THOSE 16, YOU NEED TO BE ON THE MIC.

OF THOSE OF THOSE 16.

WE HAVE ABOUT SIX THAT WE NEED TO FINISH UP.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY IT IN A NUTSHELL.

GO AHEAD. CHIEF BLACKWELL, WITH THE CURRENT AUDITS THAT ARE STILL IN PROCESS, ARE YOU ABLE TO RELY ON THE APPROVED VENDORS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE? BDO, WEAVER? I CAN'T THINK OF THE OTHER ONES OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

YES, ALL OF THOSE FIRMS ARE STILL AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO US.

AND CAN THEY PROVIDE ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE CURRENTLY NEEDED WITH THE AUDIT PLAN? WE NEED TO ASSESS THAT.

AND I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE AUDIT PLAN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET WRAPPED UP NOW, NOT THE NEW ONE THAT STARTS IN JANUARY.

CORRECT. WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE THAT ASSESSMENT AND DECIDE HOW MANY RESOURCES WE NEED.

AND IS IT GOING TO BE BRINGING IN SOME TEMPORARY AUDITORS? IS IT GOING TO BE USING OUR FIRMS OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH OF THOSE IN ORDER TO GET THIS DONE IN A REASONABLE TIME? HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF DECEMBER, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL.

WITH THE HOLIDAY SEASON COMING UP, I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

SO IT MIGHT SPILL OVER INTO JANUARY.

SO WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM IS LAKOTA IS IT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE MARCH OR APRIL BEFORE WE HAVE THIS SORTED OUT ON ON WHAT DIRECTION THE BOARD'S GOING TO GO.

SO THAT WOULD MEAN NOT JUST THE AUDITS TO FINISH BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER 31ST FOR FISCAL YEARS, 21 AND 22, BUT ALSO STARTING FIRST QUARTER. THE AUDIT PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 23.

UNDERSTOOD. I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR ME LATELY.

I'VE. SHOULD I DO THIS? I'M LIKE, YOU'RE.

YOU ARE THE PERSON WHO IS LEADING THIS FUNCTION FOR THE DISTRICT.

UNDERSTOOD, MADAM CHAIR, MY CONCERN WAS REALLY I DIDN'T HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE.

AND SO MR. HOUSE AND I WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY, AND AND WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD EARNESTLY AS BEST WE CAN, AND WE WILL.

AGREE. ALL RIGHT.

THAT HAS COVERED EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.

[Additional Item]

AS LONG AS LISA SAYS THAT IT IS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT'S POSTED, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEE DEIGAARD.

SO, SUPERINTENDENT HOUSE, TRUSTEE WADE, TRUSTEE DEIGAARD.

TRUSTEE CRUZ. I SENT YOU ALL A IT IS A PRELIMINARY ENERGY ASSESSMENT.

IT'S FREE. IT'S FROM THE STATE ENERGY CONSERVATION OFFICE.

AND IF HISD APPLIES FOR WHICH AGAIN, IT'S FREE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO AUDIT OUR ELECTRICITY USE AND SAVE SOME MONEY IN THE LONG RUN.

AUSTIN ISD HAS DONE THIS AND THEY HAVE A DASHBOARD SHOWING KIND OF WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE CENTRALIZED SYSTEM TO EACH BUILDING, HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO RUN THE BUILDING AND SO FORTH.

SO WE CAN AUDIT THIS AND FIND WAYS TO SAVE SOME MONEY IN THE LONG RUN.

[00:40:03]

SOMEWHERE IN ARIZONA, THERE WAS A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT DID THIS THAT WAS ABLE TO GIVE NOT JUST THEIR TEACHERS, BUT THEIR TEACHERS AND THE ENTIRE SCHOOL DISTRICT LIKE IT'S LIKE A 25% PAY INCREASE BECAUSE OF THE SAVINGS THAT THEY USE.

SO JUST FYI WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND AT LEAST I EMAILED IT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, WHO WOULD THAT BE DIRECTED TO? SUPERINTENDENT HOUSE.

SO IT'S AN OPERATIONS FUNCTION.

THERE ARE ACTUALLY SEVERAL COMPANIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT DO JUST THIS.

I'VE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH TWO OF THEM IN THE PAST.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR OWN ENERGY.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT TITLE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS, BUT WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT FOCUS ON ENERGY EFFICIENCY THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THERE'S SOME NUANCES IN THESE COMPANIES IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH AND WHAT PERCENTAGE THEY RECEIVE BACK.

I DON'T KNOW THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY, BUT WE'LL I WAS ACTUALLY WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT IN AUSTIN, THE INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT IN AUSTIN, WHO IS ACTUALLY MOVING TO TO HOUSTON WITH HE AND HIS FAMILY THIS WEEKEND.

AND WE'LL ASK A FEW MORE QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS COMPANY AND GET SOME ADDITIONAL INSIGHT.

AND JUST FYI, I THINK AUSTIN ISD HAS THEIR DASHBOARDS, TOO.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, EACH SCHOOL PROVIDES LIKE HOW MUCH THEY'VE SPENT ON ELECTRICITY AND WHERE THEIR COST SAVINGS GO.

SO SO DO WE, MR. HOUSE, DO DO WE CURRENTLY DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WE, I'D HAVE TO GIVE WITH WANDA TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE FUNCTION IS OF OUR ENERGY EFFICIENCY EMPLOYEES AND EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO AND WHETHER THEY'RE SPECIFIC COST SAVINGS THAT WE COULD SHARE WITH THE COMMITTEE OR THE ENTIRE BOARD.

BUT WE DO HAVE THAT FUNCTION.

MOST SCHOOL SYSTEMS AT LEAST SHOULD HAVE THAT FUNCTION.

BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT THAT PRIDE THEMSELVES IN DOING THIS TRAINING.

AMERICAN STANDARD. THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT DO THIS, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY AND SOME OF THEM HAVE SOME NUANCES THAT WHEN I WAS IN TULSA, IT ENDED UP BEING A GOOD DEAL ON THE FRONT END.

ON THE BACK END. IT WASN'T A GREAT DEAL.

WHEN I WAS CO IN CHARLOTTE, WE ACTUALLY DECIDED AGAINST IT AND DID IT AS AN INTERNAL FUNCTION.

SO WE'LL FIND OUT FROM OUR CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE AND WHETHER THIS IS A FUNCTION THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT OR NOT.

SO BUT THE DASHBOARD IS WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT.

EVEN IF IT'S AN INTERNAL FUNCTION, I STILL THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT AS FAR AS CONSERVING ENERGY, BECAUSE..

I THINK WE'LL FIND OUT.

AND IT WILL BE PLAIN AND PLAIN AND SIMPLE IS THAT OUR HIGH SCHOOLS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME OF OUR MOST EFFICIENT BUILDINGS, OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND ELEMENTARIES, IT'LL LOOK HORRIBLE AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY TAKE A DASHBOARD.

IT TAKES OUR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK TO SEE WHAT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES ARE.

BUT I THINK WE MAY EVEN HAVE SOME CONTROLS.

I'LL HAVE TO GET WITH OUR CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER AND BEING ABLE TO GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THE BOND TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, THESE ARE WHERE YOUR DOLLARS ARE GOING, THIS IS WHERE YOUR DOLLARS ARE NEEDED SO THAT WE CAN BECOME MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT AND SO FORTH, I THINK WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA.

BUT THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO DISCUSS, THIS MEETING OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE IS NOW ADJOURNED AT 10:29 A.M..

OH, WAIT, CAN I ASK.

WE JUST ADJOURNED, MY FRIEND.

LISA, I'LL ASK YOU THEN? OKAY. YEAH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.