Aug 04, 2022 Special Board Meetings

[CALL TO ORDER]

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NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

THE BOARD WILL NOW ADJOURNED A CLOSED SESSION UNDER CHAPTER 551 OF TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE OPEN MEETINGS ACT SUBSECTIONS

[ADJOURN TO CLOSED OR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES LISTED IN THIS NOTICE]

SHOULD BOARD, FINAL ACTION, VOTE OR DECISION ON ANY MATTER CONSIDERED IN THE CLOSED SESSION BE REQUIRED? SUCH FINAL ACTION VOTER DECISION SHALL BE TAKEN AT THE OPEN MEETING COVERED BY THIS NOTICE UPON THE RECONVENING.

THIS MEETING IS NOW RECONVENED AT 3:05 P.M..

[RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION (IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING CLOSED SESSION)]

[REDISTRICTING PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION, INCLUDING MAP DRAWING]

BUT I THINK WHAT WE'VE DECIDED, TRUSTEES IS AND WE CAN EITHER JUST GO IN ORDER IN THE DAIS OR IF YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR INTEREST IN THE QUEUE, WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY.

SO JUST AS IN THE QUEUE OK.

SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS THE FIRST ROUND EVERYONE WILL SHARE THE MAPS THAT THEY HAVE PREFERENCE FOR AND TRUSTEES IS A REMINDER YOU CAN ACCESS EACH OF THESE MAPS WITH THE CORRESPONDING VAP DATA.

AND MR. FALK, DO YOU HAVE THAT WHERE YOU COULD PULL IT UP ON THE SCREEN AS IF IF TRUSTEES ARE TALKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC MAP, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE THAT PULLED UP WOULD BE HELPFUL.

AND I ALSO ASKED BOARD SERVICES TO PRINT OUT THE CE VAP DATA BECAUSE THAT WAS SENT IN A SEPARATE EMAIL THAT I FORWARDED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

SO THAT SHOULD BE COMING MOMENTARILY.

SO TRUSTEE WAIT.

AND AS A REMINDER, I'LL ALSO BE TAKING NOTES ON YOUR PREFERENCES.

SO IF YOU CAN NAME YOUR TOP TWO CHOICES AND WHY.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEE CRUZ.

I VOTE ON MY TOP TWO CHOICES OR MAP A AND PLAN E . OK TRUSTEE BAKER.

I THANK YOU, TRUSTEE CRUZ.

AND WELCOME BACK, EVERYONE AROUND BOARD.

MY TOP CHOICE IS PLAN A, PLAN A SEEMS TO ME CAUSED A LESS DISRUPTION TO THE COMMUNITY, KEEPS THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, COMMUNITY OF INTERESTS TOGETHER, AND IT KEEPS THE PRECINCTS TOGETHER AS THEY ARE.

SO PLAN A.

AND DO YOU HAVE A SECOND CHOICE? IF I HAD A SECOND CHOICE AS A POINT TO START WITH, IT LOOKS LIKE PLAN E LOOKS JUST LIKE PLAN E.

WITH REGARDS TO DISTRICT SIX.

AGAIN, MY INTEREST IS TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.

COMMUNITY OF INTEREST, THE VOTING BLOC TOGETHER THERE.

AND THOSE TWO PLANS LOOK LIKE, EXCEPT FOR A LITTLE CORNER THERE, THAT SEEMS TO BE LEANING TOWARDS DISTRICT NINE, KEEPS THE DISTRICT TOGETHER BECAUSE MY DISTRICT SEEMS TO BE ALMOST PERFECT THE WAY IT IS.

I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR WAS YOUR SECOND CHOICE D AS IN DOG OR E AS IN..

I SAID PLAN A, I'M TRYING TO SAY PLAN A AND PLAN E KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE BIT, BUT I PREFER LEAVING DISTRICT SIX AS IT IS FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE DISTRICT SIX APPEARS TO BE PERFECT IN NUMBERS.

I SAID ALMOST WHEN I'M CHANGING IT TO PERFECT IN NUMBERS, SO THERE'S REALLY NO NEED TO ADJUST IT AT ALL.

YEAH, I DON'T THINK I THINK PLAN IN PLAN E THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO DISTRICT SIX, IS THAT CORRECT? SID OK.

YEAH. VERIFY THAT FOR US, PLEASE.

HERE SHE ASK YOU WAS PLAN E, WERE THERE ANY CHANGES AT DISTRICT SIX, AS WITH PLAN A.

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OK.

I HAVE PLAN A UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW [INAUDIBLE] AS WELL.

I BELIEVE THEY ARE VERY [INAUDIBLE].

CAN YOU CAN YOU CLARIFY IN TERMS OF DISTRICT SIX, IF THERE'S ANY CHANGE TO PLAN IN PLAN E? I'M VERIFYING RIGHT NOW, BUT I BELIEVE THERE IS NOT.

YEAH. YEAH.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? TRUSTEE. WHAT DID HE SAY? YEAH, PLAN.

SORRY. CAN YOU SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME? WE COULDN'T HEAR YOU. I'M SORRY.

DISTRICT SIX IS THE SAME IN BOTH PLAN E AND PLAN A.

OKAY. THANK YOU. TRUSTEE.

ALLEN.

I FAVOR AT THIS TIME, A AND D, LIKE IN DOG.

ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE TRUSTEES?.

TRUSTEE DEIGAARD. MY APOLOGIES, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND PROCESS.

I THOUGHT WE WERE ALL CHIMING IN WITH OUR TWO.

IS THAT THE PLAN? YES.

YOU'RE SAYING WHICH ONES ARE YOUR TO? YOU CAN SAY WHY. JUST [INAUDIBLE] ALL OF OK.

SO, I'M I'M OKAY WITH A E AND D AND MY REASON IS WE'LL KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.

REALLY, WHAT I THINK I'D RATHER SUGGEST FROM MY JUST FOR ME IS THE ONLY ONES I'M NOT OKAY WITH ARE B AND C, BECAUSE THEY LOOK THE MOST DISRUPTIVE TO COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY COMMUNITIES THAT WERE NOT ORIGINALLY RECOMMENDED TO MAKE CHANGES TO BRING US INTO THE LOT. THE MORNING.

SO I'M NOT REALLY VOTING FOR THREE.

I'M SAYING THERE ARE TWO THAT I'M NOT OKAY WITH, WHICH ARE B AND C ARE THE ONES I'M NOT OKAY WITH AND I'M OKAY WITH A D AND E. AND I WILL DEFER TO THE MAJORITY ON WHICH OF THOSE THREE THAT IT IS.

TRUSTEE BLUEFORD-DANIELS.

THANK YOU. PLAN A AND PLAN A DISTRICT.

I'M SERIOUS. DISTRICT, TOO.

IT HAS THE YOU KNOW, THE IT'S OK.

AND THE ECONOMIC DIVERSITY OF SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS ARE DEMONSTRATED IN PLAN A.

SO I'M PLAN A AND PLAN A.

THANK YOU.

LET'S SAY.

JUST FOR CLARITY, I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE MINE TO PLAN A AND PLAN A AS WELL.

WORKS FOR US. OK.

TRUSTEE HERNANDEZ. I AM GOING TO CHOOSE PLAN A AND E BECAUSE I FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS . WE DO TO.

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THANK YOU, PRESIDENT CRUZ.

I, MY CHOICES ARE B AND D.

IT STRENGTHENS AND PROTECTS COMMUNITIES OF INTERESTS, PRIMARILY STRENGTHENS THE LOWER SOCIOECONOMIC DIVERSITY. SO THANK YOU.

OK AND TRUSTEE GUIDRY IS NOT HERE.

SHE WAS, HOPEFULLY SHE CAN JOIN US BY ZOOM.

I KNOW SHE NEEDED TO BE EXCUSED.

SO I AM LAST AND LOOKING AT MY FIRST CHOICE IS B AND MY SECOND CHOICE IS A, AND I'M BASING IT ON THE VOTING AGE POPULATION FOR EACH OF THOSE DISTRICTS AND THE COMMUNITIES OF INTERESTS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.

AND I'M LOOKING MOSTLY AT DISTRICT EIGHT.

SO IF IT REALLY AFFECTS YOUR OTHER THE OTHER DISTRICTS, I'M NOT LOOKING AS MUCH AS THE AS THOSE, THOSE ARE MY MY TWO.

I'M SORRY, PRESIDENT.

WHICH WAS YOUR FIRST? MY FIRST ONE WAS B AS IN BOY.

AND MY SECOND CHOICE WAS A AS IN APPLE.

SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE OVERWHELMINGLY FOR A.

AND I WOULD JUST LET'S GO OVER THE RESOLUTION FOR THAT ONE JUST AS A CHECKPOINT.

THIS IS THE CRITERIA THAT WE ADOPTED.

I THINK IT WAS A FROM A BOARD MEETING.

I CAN'T REMEMBER. BUT IS IT EASILY IDENTIFIABLE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES? DOES IT MAINTAIN COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST IN A SINGLE DISTRICT TO AVOID SPLITTING NEIGHBORHOODS? TRUSTEE DISTRICT SHOULD BE COMPOSED OF WHOLE COUNTY VOTING PRECINCTS.

I DON'T THINK THIS DIVIDES PRECINCTS.

DISTRICTS SHOULD BE DRAWN CONSIDERING COUNTY ELECTION PRECINCTS, AVOIDING SPLITTING CONSENSUS BLOCKS UNLESS NECESSARY.

ALTHOUGH IT IS RECOGNIZED THAT EXISTING DISTRICTS WILL HAVE TO BE ALTERED TO REFLECT NEW POPULATION GROWTH AND DISTRIBUTION IN THE DISTRICT.

ANY DISTRICT PLAN SHOULD BE BASED ON EXISTING TRUSTEE DISTRICTS, WHICH I THINK THIS DOES.

TRUSTEE DISTRICTS MUST BE CONFIGURED SO THAT THEY ARE RELATIVELY EQUAL IN TOTAL POPULATION, ACCORDING TO THE 2020 FEDERAL CENSUS.

IN NO EVENT SHOULD THE TOTAL POPULATION DEVIATION BETWEEN THE LARGEST AND THE SMALLEST DISTRICTS EXCEED 10% AS COMPARED TO THE IDEAL DISTRICT SIZE.

THIS MEETS THIS CRITERIA.

TRUSTEE DISTRICT SHOULD BE COMPACT AND COMPOSED OF CONTIGUOUS TERRITORY.

COMPACTNESS MAY CONTAIN A FUNCTIONAL AS WELL AS GEOGRAPHICAL DIMENSION.

CONSIDERATION MAY BE GIVEN TO THE PRESERVATION OF INCUMBENT CONSTITUENCY RELATIONS BY RECOGNITION OF THE RESIDENTS OF INCUMBENTS IN THEIR HISTORY AND REPRESENTING CERTAIN AREAS. THE PLAN SHOULD BE NARROWLY TAILORED TO AVOID RACIAL GERRYMANDERING IN VIOLATION OF SHAW VERSUS RENO.

AND LASTLY, THE PLAN SHOULD NOT FRAGMENT A GEOGRAPHICALLY COMPACT MINORITY COMMUNITY OR PACK MINORITY VOTERS IN THE PRESENCE OF POLARIZED VOTING OR OTHERWISE DISCRIMINATE AGAINST PROTECTED GROUPS SO AS TO CREATE LIABILITY UNDER THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT.

DOES ANYONE BELIEVE THAT MAP A DOES NOT MEET ANY OF THAT CRITERIA? MR. FALK DOES THE MAP, MAP A MEET ALL OF THE CRITERIA IN OUR RESOLUTION? I BELIEVE IT DOES. BUT WANT TO BE SURE FROM THE EXPERT.

REALIZING THAT THE CRITERIA ARE REALLY FACTORS THAT YOU BALANCE.

YES, I THINK EACH OF THESE PLANS SUBSTANTIALLY FOLLOWS THE CRITERIA AND A IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THEM.

THANK YOU. AND THEN FOR THE SECOND MAP, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE PRETTY SPLIT BETWEEN D AND E THREE, THREE AND THREE. SO ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO SHOULD WE GO AROUND ONE MORE TIME OR.

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FOR THE SECOND CHOICE.

AND SO IF YOUR VOTE HAS CHANGED FOR THE SECOND CHOICE, NOW THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE A CLEAR FIRST RUNNER, IF YOU WANT TO PUT YOURSELF IN THE QUEUE AND THEN WE CAN HOPEFULLY NARROW IT DOWN.

WELL, WE CAN CHOOSE FROM ANY OF THEM.

THE ONES THAT ARE WERE TIED BETWEEN D AND E AS THE SECOND CHOICE.

MAP D AND MAP E.

TRUSTEE SANTOS.

YES, THE MAP D MORE CLOSELY KEEPS COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST TOGETHER FOR AT LEAST FOR DISTRICT ONE.

THANK YOU. SO YOU, YOURS IS D.

OK. TRUSTEE BAKER.

WITH SECOND WILL BE D LIKE DAVID BECAUSE PLAN B LIKE BOY CAUSES A COMPLETE DISRUPTION TO DISTRICT SIX, FLIPS THE DISTRICT ALL THE WAY AROUND. SO THAT SHOULD NOT EVEN BE ON THE TABLE IF YOU ASK ME.

SO B, D LIKE DAVID, IF I HAVE TO DO A SECOND CHOICE.

D LIKE, DAVID.

TRUSTEE HERNANDEZ.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE'RE CHOOSING BETWEEN D AND E? D AND B, THAT WOULD BE THE PREFERENCE.

BUT I MEAN, EVERYTHING'S STILL ON THE TABLE, BUT D AND E ARE THEY WERE EQUALLY TIED AS THE SECOND D AS IN DAVID E IS AN ELEPHANT.

THAT'S OKAY. I'LL BET EVERYTHING'S STILL ON THE TABLE.

WE GOT TO SAY, EDWARD, DAVID, BECAUSE MY CHOICE IS PLAN D BECAUSE IT KEEPS .. D AS IN DAVID? CORRECT, B AS IN BUNNY.

THANK YOU. THAT'S RIGHT.

I'M SORRY. LET ME MAKE THE CORRECTION TO THE PUBLIC AND TO PRESIDENT.

I THOUGHT WE SAID B LIKE, BOY, EXCUSE ME.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT E, EDWARD DAVID.

WELL, EDWARD DAVID, FROM MY LOOKS OF A DISTRICT SIX, IT APPEARS TO LOOK THE SAME.

EDWARD AND DAVID.

SO IF.

LET'S SEE. SO.

SO I'M JUST GOING BACK.

SO I'LL JUST REMAIN WITH D BECAUSE IT LOOKS THE SAME.

SID IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN D, DAVID EDWARDS? THE FAR NORTH END.

LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

THE FAR NORTH END.

THE FAR NORTH END OF EDWARD.

OH, OVER THERE.

OH, SORRY. OH, OKAY.

SO. YEAH, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY D BECAUSE IT APPEARS THAT IT CAUSED LEAST DISRUPTION TO CATHY'S DISTRICT, WHICH IS DISTRICT TWO.

AND IT LOOKED LIKE IT FOCUSES ON WHERE THE CHANGES ARE NEEDED IN FOUR AND SEVEN.

WHICH ARE BOTH OVER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

TRUSTEE HERNANDEZ, YOU ALREADY WENT RIGHT.

OK. ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE OR IF I GUESS IF WHAT YOU GAVE ME THE FIRST ROUND IS WHAT YOU STILL WANT.

FOR A WE HAD ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX.

TRUSTEE. BLUEFORD-DANIELS.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO STICK WITH E AND E, AND I KNOW THAT I'M SORRY, A AND A BECAUSE I'M A I'M CONCERNED WITH D AND E DILUTING.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WAS D AND E MAKING THOSE CHOICES.

I'M I'M I'M CONCERNED WITH THE DILUTION OF HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED OR UNDER UNDER, IN OVERPOPULATED AREAS.

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AND THAT CHOICE BEING A AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH MY COHORTS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PICK A D OR AN E IF THE MAJORITY OF US HAVE ALREADY CHOSEN A. SO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY OF THAT.

POINT OF CLARIFICATION, PRESIDENT CRUZ.

TRUSTEE SANTOS.

OK. SO I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY, WE ARE SELECTING TWO MAPS SO THAT THE PUBLIC HAS OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT, COMMUNITY INPUT, CORRECT? IT'S NOT THIS IS NOT THE FINAL MAP.

THIS IS THERE'S STILL CHANGES THAT CAN BE MADE IF WE WANT TO KEEP ATTENDANCE, BOUNDARIES OR COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST, THAT'S THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE MAP Z X AND Y OUT THERE AND SAY, OKAY, COMMUNITY, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH.

WHICH ONE DO YOU PREFER? CORRECT. CORRECT. OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARITY BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M STILL REMAINING FOCUSED.

THE FACT THAT D2, FOR THE MOST PART, AS WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, IT'S ALREADY IT'S OKAY.

IT DIDN'T NEED TO MOVE NECESSARILY PLUS OR MINUS THE POPULATION.

SO BECAUSE IT IS, THEN I DON'T WANT TO DO ANY DISRUPTION.

SO I ACTUALLY ASK MY COHORTS FOR CONSIDERATION TO DOING MINIMAL DISRUPTION BECAUSE SOME OF THESE OTHER MAPS WOULD DISRUPT WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE ESTABLISHED IN DISTRICT TWO, PARTICULARLY OUR VOTING POPULATIONS.

TRUSTEE SANTOS.

THOSE FROM BEFORE. TRUSTEE ALLEN.

I WANTED TO CLARIFY OUR OBJECTIVE FOR THE END OF THIS MEETING, BECAUSE I KNOW RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT SELECTING TWO TO TAKE OUT.

WE'RE SELECTING ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT AND THEN MOVE IT AROUND OR WE FIXED NEW.

I THOUGHT WE WERE NOT DOING FINALITY RIGHT NOW, SO THE HOPE WAS THAT WE COULD COME TO A CONSENSUS ON TWO THAT WE COULD TAKE TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE'RE READY TO TAKE TO THE COMMUNITY NOW? IF IF A TRUSTEE FEELS LIKE WE NEED TO DRAW A LITTLE MORE, I'M OPEN TO THAT AS WELL.

OK, I'M FINE WITH MINE.

I DON'T NEED TO DRAW ANYTHING ELSE.

OKAY. NO PROBLEM.

TRUSTEE. BLUEFORD-DANIELS.

TRUSTEE DIEGAARD.

THANK YOU. I WANT TO START WITH YOU SAID THERE ARE SIX THAT WANTED A AS A CHOICE.

I COUNTED SEVEN.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR MY COLLEAGUES AS I'M BEING ASKED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN D AND E AS A SECOND CHOICE, UNLESS I'M MISCALCULATED, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S DISTRICT FOUR AND DISTRICT ONE THAT YOU GUYS ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO THIS WASN'T ONE OF YOUR TOP TWO CHOICES PLAN A? OH, AND YOURS IS. SO THERE ARE THREE OF YOU FOR WHOM IT WASN'T A TOP CHOICE.

AND SO WE'RE TAKING WE'RE ALSO TAKING A SECOND CHOICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE CHOOSING BETWEEN D AND E.

IF THE THREE OF YOU WOULD PLEASE SHARE, WHY? BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO INFLUENCE MY DECISION IS HEARING LIKE, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? BECAUSE WHAT I'M SEEING ON MAP A IS I DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT AND CORRECT.

REFRESH MY MEMORY AND I'M IN A WHOLE LOT OF PAIN TODAY, SO I'M A LITTLE LIKE OFF.

SO THE THREE TRUSTEE DISTRICTS THAT WERE REQUIRED BY LAW TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO WERE SEVEN AND FOUR.

AND WHAT WAS THE THIRD ONE? THREE SEVEN, THREE AND FOUR, THREE, SEVEN AND FOUR OK.

SO WHEN I LOOK AT MAP A, I SEE THAT WE'VE KEPT COMMUNITIES INTACT AND THAT THE ADJUSTMENTS WERE MADE TO THE THREE TRUSTEE DISTRICTS THAT WE KNEW AT THE OUTSET WE HAD TO MAKE CHANGES TO TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.

SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND BETWEEN D AND E, LIKE WHAT IS THE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON ON A COMMUNITY FROM EITHER OF THOSE CHOICES OR WHAT THE GAIN IS OUTS THAT WOULD SO I CAN DECIDE WHICH ONES THE LEAST OBJECTIVE BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY AND I APOLOGIZE.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEE ALLEN.

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OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T WANT.

YOU DON'T WANT A FOR THAT REASON? I DON'T WANT E FOR THAT REASON.

I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OBJECTIONS WERE TO A.

I DIDN'T HAVE AN OBJECTION. YOU DIDN'T HAVE ONE? TO A, I WAS AN A AND MY OBJECTION TO E.

YOU WEREN'T ONE OF THE ORIGINAL. YOU WEREN'T ONE OF THE ORIGINAL VOTERS FOR A THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I WAS ASKING.

YES. I VOTED FOR A AND D AND I THOUGHT YOU WERE CHOOSING BETWEEN D AND E.

I AM. AND YOU WANTED TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT MY REASON FOR YOUR COMMUNITY BETWEEN THOSE TWO.

OKAY, SO I'M JUST TELLING YOU MY REASON FOR NOT WANTING E OK.

YOU DON'T LIKE E BECAUSE OF THAT CHILD AND THEN.

SO WHO ARE THE TWO THAT DON'T WANT A? ELIZABETH AND ME? JUST ELIZABETH AND JUDITH.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

UM. OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. FALK. SO WHEN I LOOK AT MAPS D AND E, D AND E.

D AS IN DONNY AND E AS IN ELEPHANT.

I DON'T SEE A DIFFERENCE ON THE MAPS FOR EIGHT.

BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE CVAP OF NUMBERS, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

SO I WAS. THERE IS A SMALL DIFFERENCE IN THE MAP.

THERE IS A SMALL DIFFERENCE.

OH, THERE IS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERY WESTERN PART OF EIGHT, I SEE IT.

OKAY. AND THERE'S ALSO OF THAT IN THE NORTH CENTRAL PART.

IT'S LIKE THOSE GAMES YOU PLAY, LIKE, CAN YOU FIND THE DIFFERENCE? THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I AM.

SO THEN MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE.

IT ALSO. I'M JUST.

IT'S.

TRUSTEE ALLEN.

CAREFULLY, NOT ONLY IS MY CHILD, NOT IN MY DISTRICT, HALF OF MY DISTRICT IS GONE FROM THAT WHOLE SIDE OVER THERE.

SO I'D LIKE TO CHANGE MY DISTRICT FROM D BECAUSE MY CHILD IS TO TO.

OH, MY GOD. TO A AND A.

BUT I HAVEN'T CHANGED MY SECOND ONE YET.

YEAH, I'M CHANGING IT BECAUSE OF THE..

CHANGE MINE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WANT.

SO I'M GOING TO GO WITH PLAN E FOR MY SECOND CHOICE.

THINK THAT STILL TIES IT.

I'M SORRY, WHICH PLAN DID YOU SAY? E AS IN ELEPHANT? TRUSTEE DIEGAARD.

DID YOU DECIDE? I DID.

SORRY. AND JUST BECAUSE I'M IN A GOOD MOOD, WHICH I'M REALLY NOT.

WHICH ONE? I WANT D.

ONLY BECAUSE I FINALLY FIGURED OUT THAT ELIZABETH WAS ONE THAT DIDN'T WANT A.

AND I'D LIKE ONE OF THEIRS TO BE ON THE LIST.

AND I'M IN THE QUEUE REAL QUICK.

TRUSTEE HERNANDEZ.

I ALSO WANT TO CHANGE MY ORIGINAL VOTE, MOSTLY BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MANY MAPS.

THEY ALL LOOK VERY SIMILAR.

BUT NOW I REMEMBER LOOKING AT A ORIGINALLY AND WANTING TO CHANGE IT.

THAT WAS ME WHO DID THAT.

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THREE. SO THAT'S YOUR FIRST CHOICE? MY FIRST CHOICE IS B.

I JUST WAS MIXED UP IN THE MAPS AND I WAS.

THAT'S OKAY. I MEAN, A IS STILL THE THE LEADING CONSENSUS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE END, BUT WANT TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.

PERFECT, OK SO.

D AS IN BUNNY. HOW DO I KEEP FORGETTING THAT.

D, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE.

LOOKS LIKE D IS THE OVERWHELMING CHOICE.

AM I RIGHT IN TELLING THAT I? TO D, B LIKE IN BOY.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

DO WE HAVE TO CHOOSE? YOU ARE. GO AHEAD, TRUSTEE BLUEFORD-DANIELS.

OK. BECAUSE I WANT FOR THE RECORD TO BE ON RECORD.

THESE MAPS D AND E AS WE DISCUSS, ARE GOING TO CHANGE DISTRICT TWO AND DISTRICT TWO DID NOT NEED CHANGING.

YOU ALL NEED TO WORK IT OUT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO NOT.

NO, NO, NOT WITH ME, BECAUSE I'M AGAINST IT.

I'M SAYING BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO CHANGE MY VAP.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH MY VOTING POPULATIONS.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WORK IT OUT BUT DON'T WORK IT OUT WITH ME.

WE WANT TO LEAVE DISTRICT TWO ALONE, IT'S OKAY.

SO EIGHT IS ALSO NOT NEEDING TO BE CHANGED, BUT MINOR BOTH SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED IN A AND D JUST FOR THE RECORD.

A AND D, MEAN I THINK IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO JUST TOUCH THOSE THREE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BOUNDARIES WITH OTHER DISTRICTS.

AND THAT'S TRUE.

BUT IT CHANGES THE WHOLE WITH A AND WITH D, IT CHANGES THE EXCUSE ME, VOTING AREA THAT HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN IN DISTRICT TWO.

AND SO EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THIS IS BASED ON ON CENSUS, BUT THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS WERE CREATED BECAUSE OF REPRESENTATION. AND I WANT TO JUST TRY AND MAINTAIN REPRESENTATION AS IT IS.

ONCE WE INCORPORATED NORTH FOREST, THAT'S WHEN THOSE DISTRICTS WERE REVAMPED.

AND SO NOW I'M JUST CAUTIOUS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOSING SOME OF THE POPULATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ARE TRYING TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT.

TRUSTEE ALLEN.

WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE WERE CONSIDERING.

AND I DID JUST WANT TO.

WE ARE DEFINITELY NOT CONSIDERING B AND C.

SO WE'RE WOBBLING BETWEEN A D AND E IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.

NO I HAD THREE.

B LIKE IN BOY HAS THREE BECAUSE I WANTED TO SAY THAT EARLIER I DID TALK TO TRUSTEE GUIDRY AND B PULLS A LOT OF HER COMMUNITY AND PUTS IT IN MY COMMUNITY.

AND EVEN THOUGH I WENT TO MADISON, I STILL THINK THAT THOSE THAT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR HER TO BE ABLE TO KEEP HER COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND NOT DIP IN THERE IN THE MIDDLE.

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CLARIFYING QUESTION.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE HAVE TO PICK TWO.

I HEAR THE ARGUMENTS FOR A.

BUT THAT WE HAVE TO PICK TWO TO GO ON THIS RESOLUTION TO TAKE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST ONE.

CORRECT. I DON'T THINK I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A HARD AND FAST RULE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE IDEAL TO HAVE TWO.

TO PICK. IF WE HAVE TOO MANY, THEN IT GETS REALLY COMPLICATED.

IF WE JUST HAVE ONE. I FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO THINK THAT THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A SAY.

AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE FIRM.

BUT THERE'S NOT A HARD AND FAST RULE.

BUT THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION.

YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU.

TRUSTEE BAKER.

YES, I HAVE TO CONCUR WITH WITH TRUSTEE BLUEFORD-DANIELS WAS MENTIONING BECAUSE THE MAPS OTHER THAN A REDRAWS HER DISTRICT, I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT MR. SID COMES BACK WITH ANOTHER VERSION OF A TO PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC TO TRY AND SATISFY AND BALANCE WHAT IS BEING SAID FROM REPRESENTATIVE, FROM DISTRICT TRUSTEE TO MY RIGHT TO YOUR LEFT TRUSTEE HERNANDEZ AND FROM COMMENTS FROM TRUSTEE BLUEFORD-DANIELS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS AN EASIER PROCESS AND KIND OF NOT PROLONG IT LIKE WE'RE DOING AND JUST GO AHEAD AND PRESENT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE MOSTLY IN MAJORITY WITH, WHICH IS CLOSE TO A AND WHAT ALSO WHAT TRUSTEE HERNANDEZ IS TALKING ABOUT MAKING THAT PART OF DISTRICT THREE MORE COMPACT.

SO I THINK WE NEED ANOTHER VERSION OF A BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

OK LET ME JUST CHIME IN HERE.

WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, SIX, FIVE, FIVE.

ANY TIME YOU SHIFT ONE, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT ANOTHER DISTRICT.

SO I THINK WE HAVE ONE THAT GOT A MAJORITY I DIDN'T VOTE FOR.

BUT I THINK IT'S FAIR IF IT'S THE MAJORITY AND I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST TO COME TO A CONSENSUS ON A SECOND ONE.

NO MATTER WHAT WE DRAW, SOMEONE IS GOING TO NOT LIKE IT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TAKING TWO TO THE COMMUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON.

[INAUDIBLE] TRUSTEE ALLEN.

I WOULD LIKE TO AGREE WITH TRUSTEE BAKER THAT WE NOT MAKE THESE FINAL THAT WE DO ANOTHER VERSION OF A.

TRUSTEE HERNANDEZ.

IF YOU LOOK AT A FOR THE PERCENTAGE OF HISPANIC VOTING POPULATION, MY DISTRICT GOES FROM 69% CURRENTLY TO A TO 51%.

THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

THAT'S VOTING POPULATION 69% TO 51%.

VERY BIG CHANGE IN MY POPULATION.

AND THAT'S ALMOST I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LAW IS, BUT ALMOST NOT A MAJORITY ANYMORE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT THE RIGHT STEP TO GO FORWARD HERE IS, BUT GOING FROM 69 TO 51, BASICALLY, AND WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON. LET'S MAP THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT TO MAP A VERY BIG CHANGE IN MY POPULATION.

THAT'S WHY I DON'T LIKE MAP A.

I KNOW THAT IT GOT THE MOST VOTES.

HOWEVER, THAT'S A BIG CHANGE IN MY POPULATION WHERE IT'S I DON'T KNOW.

LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT, BUT ALMOST DOESN'T MAKE IT A VOTING BLOC.

OH, SORRY.

TRUSTEE BLUEFORD-DANIELS.

TRUSTEE BLUEFORD-DANIELS, YOU SAID YOU WERE IN THE QUEUE.

YEAH, I WAS. [INAUDIBLE] YOU KNOW THE CVAP, WE TALKED INITIALLY.

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AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO DISSECT THAT EVENLY, ACCORDING TO THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT.

IT'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT THE VOTE TO TO PRESS AND GET PEOPLE REGISTERED TO VOTE.

I'M STILL TALKING ABOUT A I'M TALKING ABOUT A IN PARTICULAR.

AND TRUSTEE HERNANDEZ WAS SAYING HOW IT'S GOING TO CHANGE HER POPULATION AND UNDERSTANDABLY SO.

MINE HAS CHANGED A LOT AS WELL.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S WITHOUT ANY CHANGES TO THE MAP.

SO, AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESS PEOPLE TO REGISTER AND GET OUT AND VOTE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION GOING FORWARD.

BUT RIGHT NOW, ACCORDING TO WHAT WE WERE TOLD, DISTRICT ONE IS 4.7 UNDER.

DISTRICT THREE IS 14.63 UNDER POPULATION.

AS FAR AS THE POPULATIONS, DISTRICT FOUR IS 9.69 OVER.

AND DISTRICT SEVEN IS 11.17 OVER.

SO. THOUGH I KNOW THAT IT MAY INDIRECTLY.

WELL, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DIRECTLY AFFECT ALL THE DISTRICTS.

I BELIEVE THAT BETWEEN ONE, THREE, FOUR, ONE, THREE, FOUR, THREE AND FOUR MEET EACH OTHER.

ONE MEETS SEVEN.

SO BETWEEN ONE, THREE, FOUR AND SEVEN, SURELY THAT COULD BE WORKED OUT.

AS FAR AS THAT VARIANCE IS CONCERNED WITH THE DIFFERENCE IN THE POPULATIONS.

IT CHANGES THE VAP NUMBERS, IT DOES CHANGE THE THAT.

BUT BUT I'M SAYING THOSE ARE ALL CONNECTING.

AND SO BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY CONNECTING, ONE IN SEVEN CONNECTS AND THEN FOUR AND THREE CONNECTS, THEN THERE'S NO NEED TO AFFECT NECESSARILY TWO, EIGHT, SIX, FIVE OR NINE BECAUSE OF BASED ON THE POPULATION UNDER EACH ONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS.

DISTRICT 1, 4.7 UNDER.

DISTRICT TWO WAS OK.

DISTRICT THREE IS 14.63 UNDER, DISTRICT FOUR IS 9.69 OVER, DISTRICT FIVE IS 3.25 UNDER.

DISTRICT SIX IS 2.65 OVER.

DISTRICT SEVEN IS 11.17 OVER.

DISTRICT EIGHT IS 4.39 UNDER, DISTRICT NINE IS 3.17 OVER.

AND SO FROM THAT, THE ONES THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR READJUSTING THE LINES WOULD BE ONE, THREE, FOUR AND SEVEN BASED ON THE POPULATION, THOSE THAT ARE UNDER AND THOSE THAT ARE OVER, ESPECIALLY IN DISTRICT THREE WITH 14.63 UNDER.

IT OBVIOUSLY NEEDS SOME POPULATION.

9.6 RIGHT THERE, DISTRICT FOUR IS RIGHT THERE NEXT TO IT.

IT'S ALREADY NINE, ALMOST TEN POINTS, OVER 10 PERCENTAGE POINTS OVER.

SO THOSE TWO RIGHT THERE COULD WORK IT OUT.

I'M JUST SAYING, Y'ALL LEAVE ME ALONE.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THREE TAKES ANY MORE OF FOUR THAN FOUR LOSES IT'S COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD JUST CUT THE PIE, BUT THEN IT STARTS TO AFFECT THE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST THAT WE WANT TO KEEP IN MIND.

YES. WITH THE INTEREST OF SINCE THE PROBLEM IS BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR, THEN I WANT TO I KNOW I SAID A AND A BUT I WANT TO CHANGE MY BACK TO A AND D BECAUSE OF WHAT DANI SAID EARLIER.

IT'S OKAY WITH ME IF SHE TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE OF FOUR SO THAT IT DOES NOT DILUTE HER VOTING POPULATION.

SO A AND D ARE MY CHOICES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PAT.

I MEAN, IT'S OUR AREAS, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO STAY.

EXCUSE ME. LET ME COMMENT TO TRUSTEE HERNANDEZ THAT PLANS D AND E BOTH DO A MUCH BETTER JOB OF PRESERVING THE VOTING AGE POPULATION PROPORTION IN DISTRICT THREE.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

UM. TRUSTEE DIEGAARD.

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THANK YOU. TRUSTEE HERNANDEZ.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO WE KNOW THAT THE POPULATION OF HOUSTON HAS CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TEN YEARS.

THE POPULATION IN HOUSTON CURRENTLY IS ABOUT 50% HISPANIC.

DOES THAT MATTER IN THIS? LIKE THERE ARE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DISTRICTS THAT SHOULD BE HISPANIC VOTING BLOCS OR CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT? SINCE IT'S A WE'RE REDRAWING THE MAPS BASED ON THE NEW POPULATION.

THERE'S NO TOTALLY STRAIGHTFORWARD ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.

I INTERPRET YOUR QUESTION TO BE, IN ESSENCE, AS THE HISPANIC PROPORTION OF POPULATION IN THE DISTRICT INCREASE SUFFICIENTLY THAT THERE SHOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL HISPANIC DISTRICT.

AND I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO.

THE OVERALL PROPORTION IS OF VOTING AGE POPULATION IS STILL SLIGHTLY LESS THAN 40%.

IN PRINCIPLE, STRICT PROPORTIONALITY WOULD GET YOU A AT LEAST ANOTHER STRONG HISPANIC DISTRICT.

BUT WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THE CITIZEN VOTING AGE POPULATION FACTOR THAT THAT OVERALL VOTING STRENGTH OF THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND THE DISTRICT IS NOT A FOURTH DISTRICT WORTH.

THAT'S A SIMPLE WAY AS I CAN.

I CAN SAY IT.

THANK YOU. OK TRUSTEES.

[INAUDIBLE] I'M GOING TO SAY IT ANYWAY.

SO I HAVE GREAT PRIDE IN THE DIVERSITY OF THIS BOARD, AND I'VE BEEN TRUSTING YOU ALL TO LOOK AT ALL OF YOUR NUMBERS BECAUSE YOU ALL KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY IS JUST LIKE I KNOW MY COMMUNITY.

BUT SOMETHING THAT IS BOTHERSOME TO ME THAT I DID NOT NOTICE BEFORE.

MAYBE THIS IS HAPPENING IN OTHER TRUSTEE DISTRICTS ON THESE MAPS AS WELL, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

BUT TO DISTRICT THREE, I THINK WHAT IS JUMPING OUT AT ME THE MOST IS THIS SIGNIFICANT LEAP AND WHAT THE SEA MAP WOULD BE FOR WHITE, WHILE THIS SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN HISPANIC AND YOU KNOW IS THIS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS BOARD OF THE POPULATION OF A STUDENTS IN OUR CITY? AND I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL TO KNOW HOW THAT PANS OUT IN ELECTIONS.

BUT I JUST IT WAS NOTEWORTHY TO ME AND I FELT THEY NEEDED TO COMMENT ON IT.

SO THANK YOU. OK.

SO TRUSTEE SANTOS.

I FIND IT A BIT PROBLEMATIC THAT YOU SAY THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE MORE HISPANIC REPRESENTATION ACCORDING TO CVAP, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE WANTED THE CVAP NUMBERS, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO VOTE BUT WHOSE CHILDREN WE DO SERVE.

SO THAT REALLY MAKES IT FOR THIS TRUSTEE IT TRIGGERED SOMETHING BECAUSE WE YES, WE I APPRECIATE THE DIVERSITY ON THIS BOARD, BUT A REMINDER THAT THERE IS A SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION THAT CANNOT VOTE BUT WHOSE CHILDREN ARE WERE BORN HERE IN THE U.S. AND WE DO SERVE.

SO JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT UNDERSTOOD, AT LEAST FOR MY COLLEAGUES, THAT ALTHOUGH MR. SID YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE HISPANICS DESERVE ANOTHER SEAT ON A BOARD? I DO. I DO FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT WE SERVE 62%, ALMOST 63% LATINO CHILDREN. AND THAT THAT'S I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

THANK YOU. OK, SO LOOKING AT OPTION TWO, I HAVE FIVE VOTES FOR MAP D, SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A CONSENSUS FOR TWO PLANS.

A AND D MR.

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SO WHERE IS IT? DOES IT MEET ALL OF THE CRITERIA? I THINK SO. REMEMBERING, AS I'VE SAID SEVERAL TIMES, THE CRITERIA ARE FACTORS TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU'RE DRAWING. YOU CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT EXPECT TO PERFECTLY MEET EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM IN ANY GIVEN PLAN.

THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE TRADE OFFS.

BUT IN GENERAL, I THINK THE PLANS THAT ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION HERE, ALL OF THEM SATISFY THEIR CRITERIA.

THEY DON'T ANY OF THEM DO IT PERFECTLY.

BUT AS AS GUIDELINES, I THINK THE CRITERIA HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

TRUSTEE BLUEFORD-DANIELS WHEN WE GO TO THE COMMUNITY WITH WITH THESE TWO MAPS AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I APPRECIATE THE PROCESS OF NARROWING DOWN TO TWO OF ALL FIVE OF THE SIX OF THEM THAT WE'VE HAD.

SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT FACT.

SO ONCE WE GET WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN TO A AND D AS IN DAVID.

CORRECT. AND ONCE IT GOES TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE GET THEIR INPUT, THEN WHAT WILL THE PROCESS BE? UTILIZING THEIR INPUT WITH HELPING TO GUIDE US FOR THE OUTCOME OF WHICH ONE OF THESE MAPS WE'RE GOING TO ULTIMATELY CHOOSE.

MR. FOK, CAN YOU GUIDE US ON THAT? WELL, THE SHORT ANSWER IS YOU WILL ANALYZE ALL THE COMMENTS THAT YOU RECEIVE AND ANY OR ALL OF THEM THAT YOU THINK ARE THINGS YOU NEED TO REACT TO AND TO JUST ONE OR BOTH OF THE PLANS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, WE CAN HAVE DRAWING SESSIONS THAT WILL DO THAT.

ALTERNATIVELY, I COULD BRING YOU BACK SOMETHING IF YOU TELL ME WHICH OF THE COMMENTS AND WHICH FACTORS YOU THINK NEED TO BE EMPHASIZED, I COULD BRING YOU BACK SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AND WE WILL JUST HAVE TO WAIT, I THINK, TO SEE THE CHARACTER AND NUMEROUS NESS OF THE COMMENTS TO SEE WHICH OF THOSE TWO APPROACHES THAT IS.

I BRING YOU SOMETHING TO REACT TO OR WE JUST HAVE A DRAWING SESSION AND YOU TRY TO ADJUST ONE OR BOTH OF THE PLANTS TO TAKE THOSE COMMENTS INTO ACCOUNT.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND SO WHILE WE'RE RIGHT HERE AND WE'VE NARROWED DOWN TO A TO A AND D, IF CAMERON CAN ZOOM IN ON D, PARTICULARLY THE AREA BETWEEN ONE AND TWO, THAT'S CHANGING.

I KNOW THE LINES ARE INDICATIVE OF WHAT THE CHANGE WILL BE.

SO I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE MEETINGS WITH THE PUBLIC, BUT I WANT THEM TO GIVE THEM A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE GOING TO BE.

SO IF YOU CAN ZOOM IN WITH THE PINK AREA FAR NORTH OF DISTRICT ONE AND THE GREEN PART OF DISTRICT TWO, AND LET ME JUST TELL YOU THAT ANGUS HOLMES AREA OUT THERE, Y'ALL GOING TO HAVE SOME PROBLEMS UP IN THIS MUG BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO CHANGE THIS.

SO I'M JUST FORE WARNING YOU AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE THAT AREA THAT HAS BEEN ADVERSELY AFFECTED FOR SO MANY YEARS, WHICH IS WHY IT'S INCLUSIVE OF THAT POPULATION THERE TO HAVE MORE INCLUSIVENESS WITH DIVERSITY.

SO I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT SO THAT THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING, IF AT ALL, CAN SEE HOW THE CHANGES BETWEEN THE PINK AND THE GREEN, THAT WILL BE THE CHANGE FOR THE DISTRICT TO MAP ACCORDING TO PLAN D.

AND I KNOW WE'LL GET MORE DEFINED MORE CONVERSATIONS ONCE WE GET OUT THERE INTO THE FIELD AND START TALKING TO THE PEOPLE.

MADAM PRESIDENT. BUT I JUST FOR THOSE THAT ARE LOOKING AND LISTENING, I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE THAT'S A REAL STRONG VOTING POPULATION UP THERE AND .. IS THAT THE HARDY TOLL ROAD WHERE THE RED LINE IS.

KATHY, DO YOU KNOW. TRUSTEE BLUEFORD-DANIELS, SORRY. THAT'S OK, CATHY IT'S FINE.

COME DOWN.

IS THAT 45 OR IS THAT.

I THINK THAT'S IT MAY BE THE HARDY.

I THINK THAT'S 45.

THAT IS INTERSTATE 45.

AND THE STRAIGHT LINE OVER HERE IS THE HARDY TOLL ROAD.

YEAH, OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO [INAUDIBLE] IT'S A GOOD POINT.

DANI YOU SEE THE EXIT NUMBERS SO THAT SIDE, IT'S GOING TO BE THAT.

ACRES HOMES, OAK FOREST.

WELL, NOT VERY MUCH OF OAK FOREST WILL BE AFFECTED DOWN THERE FOR ONE UNDERNEATH THERE WHEN IT CHANGED.

IS FROM THE GREEN BECAUSE IT'S GREEN.

THE GREEN NOW IS THE THICK LINE TRUSTEE ELIZABETH IS THE BLACK LINE SEPARATES WHERE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BLACK LINE AND THE PINK LINE.

THE RED LINE DOWN TO THE BOTTOM IS THAT WHAT'S LOST IN THE IN D2 THAT WILL GO TO D 1.

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SHEPPARD PARK TERRACE.

[INAUDIBLE]. YES.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I KNOW THE DISCREPANCIES WERE BETWEEN THREE, FOUR AND SEVEN.

SO IS THERE A REASON WHY, THE FOR THE CHANGES UP AT TWO AND EIGHT.

BECAUSE IF IT'S THREE, FOUR AND SEVEN, WE'RE THE ONES HAVING.

THE ISSUES.

THE THREE WAS LOW, FOUR WAS HIGH AND SEVEN WAS HIGH AND ON IT LOOKS LIKE MAP A, THREE WAS GIVEN A PORTION OF FOUR AND A PORTION OF SEVEN.

SO IS THERE A REASON FOR THE CHANGES UP IN EIGHT AND TWO, OR CAN THEY? CAN WE HAVE A MAP WHERE WE JUST DO THE CHANGES FROM EIGHT AND TWO? JUST STAY WHERE THEY ARE. THERE'S NO REASON FOR THEM TO HAVE A CHANGE IF THEY HAVE THE CHANGES BETWEEN THREE, FOUR AND SEVEN.

I THINK BECAUSE MINE GETS AFFECTED, I HAVE TO PULL FROM SOMEWHERE AND THAT WAS ONE THAT WE DREW TOGETHER AS A GROUP.

SO, I MEAN, THERE ARE OTHER MAPS, BUT AGAIN, WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN TO THIS ONE.

LET ME COMMENT THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT PLANS, I WASN'T LOOKING FOR YOUR COMMENT.

ARE WE LOOKING AT PLAN A? YES. I DON'T BELIEVE DISTRICT TWO HAS CHANGED IN PLAN A.

DISTRICT EIGHT HAS HAD SOME CHANGES BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY AND I MAY BE MISREMEMBERING, WE WERE USING COUNTY ELECTION PRECINCTS AS THE MAIN BUILDING BLOCKS.

OKAY. AND THIS PLAN A WAS DESIGNED TO BE WHAT I WILL REFER TO AS SORT OF A MINIMAL CHANGE PLAN.

THAT IS, IT LOOKED AT THREE, FOUR AND SEVEN AND TRIED JUST TO CHANGE THOSE.

BUT THE POPULATION CONCENTRATIONS IN SOME OF THE ELECTION PRECINCTS BETWEEN THREE AND SEVEN AND FOUR.

RIGHT. HAD SO MANY PEOPLE, WE HAD TO WE HAD TO MAKE A CHANGE IN EIGHT AS WELL AS IN THREE AND ONE.

THAT JUST IT WAS A WAY OF BALANCING THE POPULATION BECAUSE THE ELECTION PRECINCTS AND THEIR POPULATIONS THAT CONFIGURATIONS AND LOCATIONS AND THE POPULATION IN THEM WEREN'T COOPERATING.

IF WE COULD HAVE HAD A PLAN THAT ONLY TOUCHED THE THREE THAT YOU'VE NAMED, RIGHT? WE WOULD HAVE DONE IT. WE COULDN'T FIND A WAY TO DO THAT.

OKAY. TRUSTEE HERNANDEZ.

I JUST WANT I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S LIKE ONLY THESE THREE DISTRICTS NEED TO BE CHANGED.

AND IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT I DID OR ANYTHING THAT SOMEBODY IN MY DISTRICT DID.

AND WE ARE REDISTRICTING RIGHT NOW FOR THE DISTRICT OF HOUSTON.

WE'RE REDISTRICTING FOR HISD, NOT FOR THREE, FOUR AND SEVEN.

SO ALL OF HISD BOUNDARIES ARE FAIR GAME.

I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO EXPRESS THAT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN MY DISTRICT HAS BEEN TARGETED.

ONLY THE ONLY TOUCH THAT ONE.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S FAIR.

IT'S THIS IS THE DISTRICT THIS IS HISD, WE'RE REDISTRICTING FOR THE DISTRICT AND NOT ONLY FOR CERTAIN AREAS WHERE REDISTRICTING FOR THE WHOLE DISTRICT.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEE BAKER.

YEAH. FOR THE RECORD, I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW AND THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT I SPENT SOME DAYS OF MY SUMMER AND COUNCIL CAN ATTEST TO THIS AT THE CITY OF HOUSTON'S REDISTRICTING.

ON THREE OCCASIONS, TWO OCCASIONS IN ONE IN WRITING.

AND I SAW THE PUBLIC GIVE INPUT.

I SAW THE PUBLIC STATEMENTS.

AND WHAT I SAW ARE CITIZENS, CITIZENS OF HOUSTON WANTING TO KEEP THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER, WANTING TO KEEP THEIR BOUNDARIES TOGETHER, AND WANTING CHANGE THAT WILL BE MINIMAL IMPACT.

IF YOU OPEN UP THE CAN OF WORMS THAT WILL CAUSE A DISRUPTION.

IT WILL MAKE UNNECESSARY FIGHTS.

AND I WENT DOWN THERE, SPENT TIME FOR PARKING, SPEND TIME GOING THROUGH SECURITY.

BECAUSE I WAS FIGHTING AS A PRECINCT CHAIR, AS A PASTOR.

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AND THE COMMUNITIES WANT TO KEEP THEIR DISTRICTS INTACT.

I ALSO LIKE IT TO BE NOTED THAT I ALSO WORK FOR THE 2020 CENSUS BUREAU.

AS WELL AND WENT OUT AND COLLECTED THIS INFORMATION.

AND JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE HERE AT THE TABLE AS A TRUSTEE TALKING ABOUT THE INFORMATION I COLLECTED FOR THE WEST SIDE FOR HOUSTON.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I REVERT TO SAY, COME UP WITH ANOTHER PLAN THAT LOOKED LIKE A.

THAT WOULD CAUSE MINIMAL IMPACT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO START UNNECESSARY FIGHTS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE TO.

THAT'S WHAT I SAW FROM THE CITY OF HOUSTON.

THANK YOU. MR. FALK, CAN YOU PULL UP THE THE CVAP INFORMATION FOR PLAN D PLEASE.

I MEAN THE VAP. WHAT YOU CAN SEE WHEN YOU HAVE THE MAP HERE.

JUST THE VAP. I'M SORRY, WHICH PLAN? D IS AN DANI? CAMERON, WILL YOU SHOW THE SUMMARY VOTING AGE POPULATION TABLE FOR PLAN D AS IN DOG.

THE VOTING AGE POPULATION TABLE, PLEASE.

TRUSTEE BLUEFORD-DANIELS.

I. OH, GO AHEAD.

OK. TRUSTEE BLUEFORD-DANIELS.

UM. AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING LOOKING AT THE VOTING AGE POPULATION ACCORDING TO THE CENSUS. AND WE KNOW THAT THE ENTIRE CITY INCLUSIVE OF HARRIS COUNTY AND THE CITY, FOR THE MOST PART, TEXAS AND A LOT OF THESE STATES, TEXAS, LOUISIANA, ALL OF THESE A LOT OF THESE STATES, THE CENSUS DATA SAYS, ONE THINGS WE KNOW THE POPULATION IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, THAT WE PROBABLY DIDN'T GET AN ACCURATE ACCOUNT OF CENSUS DATA.

THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH, RIGHT.

AND WITH THAT IN MIND, IT'S NOT ADDING A SUBTRACTING FROM ONE GROUP OR THE OTHER, BUT THE WHOLE OBJECTIVE BEHIND THIS VOTING RIGHTS, THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, IS TO HAVE REPRESENTATION THAT IS INDICATIVE OF THE POPULATION.

AND THE POPULATION IS BASED ON THOSE THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE CENSUS FOR THE MOST PART.

CORRECT? PERIOD.

THANK YOU.

TRUSTEE DIEGAARD. SO AFTER WE SETTLE ON TWO TODAY, THEN WE GO OUT AND WE TAKE THEM TO THE COMMUNITY, WE GET FEEDBACK, AND THEN THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO TWEAK THESE FURTHER BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK. AND ALSO ANYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED TODAY.

CORRECT. GREAT.

THANK YOU. CORRECT. YES.

SO, MR. FALK, TYPICALLY YOU WILL LEAD THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, WE WOULD BE THERE PRESENT.

BUT YOU FACILITATE THE CONVERSATION.

I WILL DO THE PRESENTATION AND GIVE THE PUBLIC A BRIEF EXPLANATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHY AND TAKE THE COMMENTS.

WE ARE NOT EQUIPPED TO ORGANIZE OR STAFF THE ACTUAL VENUES.

THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL NEED TO DO.

BUT YES, I WILL BE PRESENT AND CAN GENERATE MATERIALS LIKE LARGE PRINTED MAPS TO DISPLAY IN THE MEETING ROOM IN THE SO THE PUBLIC CAN LOOK AT THEM.

NOW APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE THERE TO SUPPORT US BECAUSE I WOULD.

I PREFER TO TAKE THE LEAD IN MY COMMUNITY WITH HAVING YOU ALL THERE TO SUPPORT US AND HAVE THE MAPS BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS OUR COMMUNITIES LIKE WE KNOW OUR COMMUNITIES.

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MATTER OF FACT, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN MY DISTRICT.

BASICALLY, HOWEVER YOU WANT THESE HEARINGS, PUBLIC HEARINGS TO BE RUN, WE CAN TRY TO ACCOMMODATE.

YES. TRUSTEE ALAN.

I JUST NEED A CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

I KNOW YOU ASKED EARLIER ABOUT US GOING OUT INTO OUR AREAS, SO WHEN WE FINISH GOING OUT TO THE AREAS, DO WE COME BACK AND VOTE AS OUR AREA REPRESENTATIVE? SO WE ARE VOTING ON ONE MAP.

SO I THINK THEY WOULD COMPILE THE FEEDBACK AND THEN WE COULD DECIDE AS TRUSTEES, DO WE NEED TO TWEAK EITHER OF THESE MAPS? DO WE NEED TO KEEP THEM AS THEY ARE AND THEN JUST PICK ONE? SO AT THAT POINT, I THINK WE WOULD NARROW IT DOWN TO ONE.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEE HERNANDEZ.

CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE FEEDBACK LOOKS LIKE? LIKE IS IT GOING TO BE WE HAD, YOU KNOW, X COMMENT AND 20 PEOPLE SAID THAT WE HAD Y COMMENT AND 90 PEOPLE SAID THAT OR HOW IS THAT FEEDBACK PRESENTED? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE FEEDBACK IS IT'S STILL VERY VAGUE AS TO HOW WE WOULD USE THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS REPRESENTING WHAT THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY WANTS.

IT'S HARD TO PREDICT AHEAD OF TIME WHAT FORM THE COMMENTS ARE GOING TO TAKE.

WE WOULD RECORD PERHAPS WITH VIDEO, BUT CERTAINLY AUDIO, ALL THE COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE, WE ASK, AND IN FACT, IT'S IN THE GUIDELINES THAT THE BOARD ADOPTED THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE SUBMITTING COMMENTS PLEASE DO SO IN WRITING.

SO WE WILL HAVE THAT AS WELL.

AND WE WILL TAKE THEM BACK AND LOOK FOR COMMON COMMENTS.

TRY TO QUANTIFY THE GENERAL SENSE OF WHAT WAS SAID, WHAT WAS OBJECTED TO OR APPLAUDED AND REPORT THAT BACK TO YOU.

AND I WOULD HOPE THAT MEETINGS THAT ARE IN ANY PARTICULAR TRUSTEE DISTRICT OR A COMBINATION OF TRUSTEE DISTRICTS WOULD BE ATTENDED BY EITHER YOU OR YOUR STAFF SO THAT YOU HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT THE COMMENTS ARE ACTUALLY SAYING. AND WE CAN COME TO A CONSENSUS BASED ON THAT SORT OF REVIEW AND COMPILATION OF THE MAIN COMMENTS, WHAT THE SENSE WAS OF ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN THAT YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER ADJUSTING, AND WE CAN THEN HAVE A DRAWING SESSION AND TRY TO DO THAT.

WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND, OF COURSE, IS SOMETHING THAT TRUSTEE BAKER TOUCHED ON IN THE CITY EXPERIENCE.

AND I HAVE SEEN IT IN VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE INSTANCES WHERE WE'VE HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS AND HAD COMMENTS AS PEOPLE DON'T LIKE CHANGE, EVEN IF CHANGE IS INEVITABLE. SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET A FAIR NUMBER OF COMMENTS THAT BASICALLY SAY, DON'T DO ANYTHING TO MY DISTRICT WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN LEAVE THE DISTRICT ALONE. THOSE ARE SOMETIMES EASY TO DISCOUNT.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR IS SPECIFIC COMMENTS TO THE EFFECT OF THIS ELEMENT OF PLAN D, FOR INSTANCE, SPLIT'S AN OLD HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF YOU DIDN'T DO THAT.

THOSE ARE THE SPECIFIC KINDS OF OBJECTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT ARE THE MOST PRACTICALLY USEFUL, AND WE WOULD TRY TO CATALOG THOSE AND SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT THOSE AND SPEAK WITH THE BOARD AS A WHOLE ABOUT THOSE AND REASSESS GIVEN PLAN AT THE BOARD'S DISCRETION.

TRUSTEE WADE.

WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE AT THIS? BUT I WANT TO THANK BICKERSTAFF FOR YOUR TIME AND ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE TO HELP US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

I REALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING ALL KIDS AND THE ENTIRE DISTRICT AS ONE UNIFIED UNIT.

AS BOARD TRUSTEES ALL ON BEHALF OF ALL KIDS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, TRUSTEES.

SO, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE TWO DISTRICTS THAT ARE CONSENT,

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WE STILL HAVE AGENDA REVIEW AND MY BRAIN IS ALREADY GOING.

SO MAP A AND MAP D.

SO MR. FALK WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU ABOUT SCHEDULING.

AND I'M ASSUMING WE'LL HAVE AT LEAST PROBABLY TEN MEETINGS, ONE IN EACH TRUSTEE DISTRICT, ONE VIRTUAL.

SO WE'LL GET WITH YOU ON CALENDARING THOSE OUT AND THEN ALSO CALENDARING A MEETING TO COME BACK, LOOK AT THE MAPS, MAYBE EVEN TWO MEETINGS, RIGHT, IF WE NEED TO DRAW OR DO ANY OF THAT KIND OF THING.

TRUSTEE ALLEN.

I WANTED TO MAKE A SUGGESTION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU SAID YOU WERE THINKING OF DOING ONE IN EACH DISTRICT, WHICH WOULD NOT EQUAL TEN, IT WOULD EQUAL NINE.

BUT SINCE MY DISTRICT WOULD BE REALLY AFFECTED, I WANTED TO SUGGEST THAT STERLING, SINCE IT IS IN THE AREA OF THAT WOULD BE HAVE CHANGED HAVE ONE AT THE STERLING HIGH SCHOOL AND HAVE ONE OF THE OTHER MEETINGS FROM MY AREA AT LANIER MIDDLE SCHOOL BECAUSE THAT'S THE TOP HALF AND THE BOTTOM HALF.

SO I'LL NEED TWO IN MY AREA.

SO I WANT TO BE ON RECORD AS MAKING THAT SUGGESTION THAT LANIER AND STERLING.

YEAH. BE AMONG THOSE MEETINGS SO THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY EITHER ONE OF THESE CHANGES.

DEFINITELY. SO A MINIMUM OF ONE IN EACH DISTRICT AND DEFINITELY OPEN TO MORE AND THEN ONE VIRTUAL.

YEAH. BECAUSE THEY ARE SO FAR APART.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY VOICES ARE HEARD.

THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT SUGGESTION.

AND WE CAN HAVE BOARD SERVICES COORDINATE WITH EACH OF THE TRUSTEES ON DATES AND LOCATIONS AND ALL THAT.

SO WE'LL BE IN TOUCH.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND HELPING US WORK THROUGH ALL THIS.

IT'S NEVER AN EASY PROCESS.

SO THIS CONCLUDES OUR DISCUSSION WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO DISCUSS.

THIS MEETING OF THE BOARD IS ADJOURNED.

THE TIME IS 4:16 P.M.

ON AUGUST 4TH, 2022, AND WE WILL BE BACK IN HERE FOR AGENDA REVIEW AT 5 P.M.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.