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>> [FOREIGN] GOOD MORNING. THIS MEETING IS NOW CONVENE, THE TIME IS 09:01 AM.
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT IN THE BOARD AUDITORIUM ARE TRUSTEE ALLEN, TRUSTEE SANTOS, TRUSTEE GRACE, TRUSTEE BLUFO DANIEL'S, TRUSTEE BAKER.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES.
OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESSES TO HEAR FROM SPEAKERS TO SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS.
[SPEAKERS TO AGENDA ITEMS]
HOWEVER, NO ONE HAS REGISTERED TO SPEAK TODAY.THE BOARD WILL NOW ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION UNDER
[ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTIONS 551.004, 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.076, 551.082, 551.0821, 551.083, 551.084, AND 551.089 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE FOR THE PURPOSES LISTED IN THIS NOTICE]
CHAPTER 55 ONE OF TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, SUBSECTIONS 551.004,0.71,0.72,0.73,0.74,076, 0.82,0.821,0.83,0.84 AND 0.89.SHOULD BOARD FINAL ACTION VOTER DECISION ON ANY MATTER CONSIDERED IN THE CLOSED SESSION BE REQUIRED.
SUCH FINAL ACTION VOTE OR DECISION SHALL BE TAKEN AT THE OPEN MEETING COVERED BY THIS NOTICE UPON THE RECOMBINING OF THIS PUBLIC MEETING OR AT A SUBSEQUENT PUBLIC MEETING OF THE BOARD UPON NOTICE THEREOF.
THE BOARD IS ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION AT 9:02 AM.
WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY TRUSTEE WEID.
[RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION (IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING CLOSED SESSION)]
THIS MEETING IS NOW RECONVENED AT 11:07 AM TO BE HAVE MOTIONS FROM CLOSED SESSION.[CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MATTERS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED OR EXECUTIVE SESSION]
>> I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE SEPARATION AND RELEASE AGREEMENT FOR REBECCA SWADIS HIST EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR COMMUNICATIONS ON THE TERMS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION EFFECTIVE JUNE 17TH, 2022.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY TRUSTEE ANN ANDERSON AND SECOND BY TRUSTEE ALLEN.
>> THE ACTUAL MOTION. IT'S JUST SEPARATE. THAT'S ALL.
>>WE'RE VOTING ON THE ACTUAL ITEM.
>> THAT'S EVERYONE. 442 AGAINST ONE ABSTENTION.
>> I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE PERSONNEL.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, ON THE TERMS PRESENTED IN CLOSED SESSION EFFECTIVE JUNE 17TH, 2022.
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE PERSONNEL AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, ON THE ITEMS PRESENTED.
>> WHO TAKE IT THERE. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> DID I GET A SECOND? CAN I HAVE A SECOND.
>> SERVE A MOTION BY TRUSTEE ANN ANDERSON IN A SECOND BY TRUSTEE BLUFO DANIEL'S, PLEASE VOTE.
>> I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE PERSONNEL AGENDA, INCLUDING SPECIFICALLY SETTLEMENT AND RELEASE AGREEMENTS AND RESIGNATION AGREEMENTS AS PRESENTED IN CLOSED SESSION EFFECTIVE JUNE 17, 2022.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY TRUSTEE ANN ANDERSON AND A SECOND BY TRUSTEE SANTOS. PLEASE VOTE.
GREAT. WE WILL NOW ADDRESS OUR MEETING TOPIC.
[REDISTRICTING PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION, INCLUDING MAP DRAWING]
I'D LIKE TO WELCOME MR. GUNNAR SEQUECE, WHO IS A PARTNER AT THE LAW FIRM, BIGGER STUFF HEATH, WHO WILL BE LEADING THE REDISTRICTING PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION, INCLUDING MAP DRAWING.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE, MR. SEQUECE.
THEY MIGHT GET YOU A BETTER MIC.
HOLD ON JUST A SECOND SINCE IT'S BEING BROADCAST.
>> GOOD TO GO. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUES SAID FALK, WHO SENDS HIS REGRETS FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO BE HERE THIS MORNING.
WE ARE HERE TODAY TO CONDUCT A SECOND DRAWING SESSION AS PART OF THE DISTRICT REDISTRICTING PROCESS.
THE GOAL OF TODAY'S SESSION IS TO MOVE CLOSER TO HAVING THE BOARD IDENTIFY AND SELECT
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[NOISE] AN ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN OR TO THEN PUT OUT TO THE PUBLIC THROUGH THE DISTRICT SOCIAL MEDIA AND OTHER PUBLICATIONS, SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT IN ADVANCE OF THE PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS THAT THE DISTRICT WE'LL HOLD GOING FORWARD.THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, I KNOW YOU GOT A CHANCE TO MEET MY ASSOCIATE CAMERON ARSENAULT, WHO'S ONE OF OUR GIS SPECIALIST.
HE'LL BE JOINING US HERE ON THE ZOOM LINK AGAIN, HE'S GOING TO BRING UP OUR DRAWING SOFTWARE AND WE CAN LOOK AT THE MAPS AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY FURTHER CHANGES THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE OR IDEAS OR THOUGHTS THAT YOU HAVE AS WE MOVE TOWARDS FINALIZING A PLAN TO PUT OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
DO WE HAVE CAMERON ON THE LINK? I'M NOT SURE. I SEE HIM.
>> CAN WE BRING HIM UP AND LET HIM SHARE HIS SCREEN?
>> WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY TRUSTEE GETRY VIA ZOOM.
>> BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH CAMERON, I GUESS JUST BY WAY OF A REMINDER, THE GENERAL OVERVIEW FROM THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT THAT WE DID BASED ON THE 2020 CENSUS DATA, SHOWED THAT BASED ON 2020 CENSUS, THE CURRENT BOARD TRUSTEE DISTRICTS HAD AN OVERALL DEVIATION OF 25.8%.
THAT'S IN EXCESS OF THE 10% STANDARD WE TRIED TO GET BELOW REQUIRING THIS REDISTRICTING PROCESS.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL NUMBERS AND THE BREAKDOWN BASED ON THE 2020 CENSUS, WHAT WE SAW WAS THAT PRECINCT FOUR WAS HEAVY, OVER POPULATED, NEEDED TO SHED SOME POPULATION, PRECINCT SEVEN, HEAVY OVER POPULATED NEEDED TO SHED SOME POPULATION AND THEN PRECINCT THREE WAS THE MOST SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER POPULATED.
IT'S GOING TO NEED TO GAIN THE MOST POPULATION.
THEN ONE AND EIGHT WERE ALSO SLIGHTLY UNDER POPULATED BASED ON THAT 2020 CENSUS DATA.
THAT'S GENERALLY, THE SUBSTANCE OF WHAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IN ORDER TO REBALANCE.
WHAT WE HAVE HERE ON THE MAP IS THE PLAN THAT THE BOARD DREW THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE.
CAMERON, ARE YOU ABLE TO ZOOM IN JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THAT PLAN?
>> BEFORE YOU GO INTO THAT PLAN THAT WE DREW, DO YOU MIND GOING BACK TO THE FIRST ORIGINAL AMOUNT?
>> YOU MEAN THE BENCHMARK AS THEY STAND TODAY?
>. ABSOLUTELY, CAMERON LET'S SHOW THE BENCHMARK PLAN, IF YOU COULD PLEASE, SIR.
I'M TAKING JUST A SECOND TO PULL THAT UP.
>> THANK YOU. THIS IS THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION.
I KNOW THAT YOU ALL SAW THIS THE LAST TIME, BUT JUST BY WAY OF A REMINDER OF HOW OUR SOFTWARE WORKS, IT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU IN THOSE BOTTOM TABLES BY DISTRICT, YOUR TOTAL POPULATION, AS WELL AS THE DEVIATION FROM THE TARGET DISTRICT.
IF YOU COULD DIVIDE THE DISTRICT EQUALLY AMONG ALL OF THE INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEE DISTRICTS, THAT'S YOUR TARGET.
THAT DEVIATION NUMBER WILL SHOW YOU WHICH DISTRICTS ARE HEAVY OR WHICH DISTRICTS ARE LIGHT AND BY HOW MUCH.
THAT AGAIN, IS A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF WHAT I WAS SAYING IN THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE, WHICH IS UNDER POPULATED BY ABOUT 14.6 PERCENT.
THEN YOU'VE GOT FOUR AND SEVEN THAT ARE OVER-POPULATED, 9.7 AND 11.2 PERCENT RESPECTIVELY.
THEN ONE AND EIGHT ARE BOTH UNDER ABOUT FOR A LITTLE OVER FOUR PERCENT.
THAT'S THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION IN ORDER TO BALANCE.
THEN IN THE TOP RIGHT-HAND CORNER THERE, YOU WILL SEE THE BLUE BOX THAT SAYS PLAN DEV PERIOD.
THAT GIVES YOU THE TOTAL DEVIATION ACROSS THE DISTRICTS AS IT SITS TODAY, WHICH IS 25.8 PERCENT.
BUT AS WE GO THROUGH AND MAKE ANY CHANGES, YOU WILL SEE THAT CHANGE AND THE GOAL IS TO KEEP THAT NUMBER DOWN BELOW 10 PERCENT.
>> THE QUESTION, THE DEVIATION, WHERE THE NUMBERS NEED TO BE THAT'S BASED ON THE TOTAL POPULATION AND NOT THE VOTING AGE POPULATION; IS THAT CORRECT?
>> I THINK I HAD THAT TURNED AROUND IN MY HEAD.
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>> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
COULD WE ACTUALLY PULL UP PLAN E JUST TO LOOK AT I THINK THAT'S THE EXTRA ONE THAT Y'ALL HAD DRAWN THAT WE HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT YET.
>> CERTAINLY, CAMERON, LET'S LOOK AT PLAN E PLEASE.
>> THIS IS WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE, THE ONE THAT'S ON THE SCREEN.
>> PRESIDENT CRUZ, YOU'RE CORRECT, PLAN E, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FROM THE MEETING LAST TIME ON PLAN D WAS THAT THE BOARD GENERALLY LIKED SOME OF THE CHANGES IN PLAN D, BUT WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE MIGHT BE SOME WAYS TO MAKE THE DISTRICT A LITTLE MORE COMPACT IN AREAS.
PLAN E CAME FROM SID GOING BACK AFTER THAT DISCUSSION AND WORKING WITH CAMERON AND MAKING SOME CHANGES TO TRY TO ADJUST SOME OF THE BOUNDARIES, TO CLEAN UP SOME OF THOSE LINES.
I THINK YOU'VE GOTTEN A COPY OF THIS, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO LOOK AT IT.
IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, I CAN HAVE CAMERON HIGHLIGHT THE AREAS THAT HAVE CHANGED ON PLAN E FROM WHERE WE WERE IN PLAN D. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS DIFFERENT BETWEEN THIS ONE VERSUS WHAT YOU ALL DID THE LAST TIME.
>> CAMERON, IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD.
DISTRICT BY DISTRICT SHOW THE PRECINCTS THAT DIFFER BETWEEN PLAN D AND PLAN E PLEASE, SIR.
IT'S FREEZING UP RIGHT NOW, SO I MIGHT BE ABLE TO ZOOM IN, OR HIGHLIGHT ANYTHING. I'M NOT SURE THAT'S GOING ON.
>> YEAH. IT TURNS IT ON MY END.
>> WELL, LET'S DO THIS, CAMERON, IF YOU CAN, WHILE WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT UNFROZEN, CAN YOU PUT UP A PDF SIDE-BY-SIDE OF PLANS D AND E. I CAN PROBABLY JUST TALK THROUGH THE MAJOR CHANGES THAT WE SEE.
GIVE ME A MINUTE. IT FEELS LIKE COMPUTER COULD BE FROZEN.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MY COMPUTER.
I MIGHT HAVE TO LEAVE AND REJOIN.
GIVE ME JUST A SECOND TO DO THAT.
>> CAMERON, IF YOU WILL ACHIEVE YOU CAN GET IT BACK UP AND REJOIN AND BOARD MEMBERS, LET ME APOLOGIZE FOR THE TECH.
IT MUST HAVE HEARD I WAS COMING TODAY AND DECIDED TO BREAK DOWN.
>> MR. SEACREST WHILE WE'RE WAITING, JUST CURIOUS WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN WITH OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND DOING THIS PROCESS IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PART AND FEEDBACK PART.
TYPICALLY, HOW LONG IS THAT PROCESS? I KNOW IT'S UP TO US LIKE, HOW MANY MEETINGS WE WANT.
WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ALL GUIDE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND WE'RE JUST A PART OF? ARE WE DRIVING THE BUS AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
>> WELL, TYPICALLY AGAIN, THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT IS UP TO THE BOARD.
SOMETIMES USUALLY BOARDS WILL TRY TO DISTRIBUTE THOSE MEETINGS GEOGRAPHICALLY SO THAT EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A MEETING THAT'S RELATIVELY NEARBY.
THAT CAN MEAN DEPENDING ON SIZE OF DISTRICT A MEETING AND EVERY DISTRICT SOMETIMES MORE THAN THAT.
THEY DID THREE MEETINGS TO COVER THE WHOLE DISTRICT.
IT'S REALLY JUST FROM A GEOGRAPHIC STANDPOINT, WHAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE GIVES FOLKS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND PARTICIPATE.
TYPICALLY, THE WAY THAT WE WILL HANDLE THOSE MEETINGS, ALTHOUGH IT IS AGAIN, AT THE BOARD'S DISCRETION, IS THAT WE'LL LEAD THE MEETING AND WE WILL GIVE A PRESENTATION, THE OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS.
HOW WE GOT HERE, WHY REDISTRICTING IS IMPORTANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF
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THOSE STANDARDS THAT REQUIRE THE DISTRICT TO ENGAGE IN THIS PROCESS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.THEN WE WILL PRESENT FOR THE PUBLIC THE PLANS THAT THE DISTRICT THE BOARD WANTS TO PUT OUT FOR FOLKS TO GIVE INPUT ON.
THEN WE WILL ACTUALLY INVITE FOLKS TO COME UP AND GIVE VERBAL COMMENT.
THESE DAYS MEETINGS ARE ALWAYS RECORDED, SO WE HAVE A WRITTEN RECORD OF THAT, BUT WE ALSO TAKE OUR RECORDED RECORD OF THAT.
BUT WE ALSO WILL TAKE OUR OWN RECORD OF ALL THE COMMENTS AND THEN SYNTHESIZE THOSE AND PRESENT THEM TO THE BOARD IN A REPORT JUST OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET.
ONE OF THE CENTRAL FOCUS IS I'VE FOUND WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN PARTICULAR IS WHEN WE HAVE THE PUBLIC INPUT MEETINGS ON REDISTRICTING.
OFTENTIMES FOLKS ARE CONFUSED THAT IT RELATES TO SCHOOL ZONE AS TENDONS.
A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WILL COME WANTING TO HEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR CHILDREN AREN'T BEING MOVED TO A DIFFERENT SCHOOL ZONE.
ONE OF THE REALLY IMPORTANT PARTS I'VE FOUND FOR THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS IS REASSURING PEOPLE THAT THIS PROCESS RELATES ONLY TO WHERE YOUR TRUSTEE IS ELECTED FROM AND VOTING AND WON'T AFFECT WHERE ANYBODY'S KID GOES TO SCHOOL.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
>> MICHAEL. ON THE MAPS THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED TO US.
>> THIS IS JUST A COMMENT, OBSERVATION, BUT ON THE VAP, DO YOU CALL IT VAP OR VAP? [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S VOTING AGE POPULATION. WE USUALLY SAY VAP.
>> ON THE VAP, ON THE OTHER ACTUAL POPULATION, WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S JUST THAT CAN YOU BE CONSISTENT WITH YOUR COLOR? EITHER MAKE THE VAPS ALWAYS YELLOW INSTEAD OF YELLOW ON THIS ONE AND THEN BLUE ON THIS ONE.
WE'VE GOT FIVE DIFFERENT MAPS, AND I GO LOOKING AT FIVE DIFFERENT SPACES, AND IT'S DIFFERENT COLOR ON EACH.
LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU JUST PRESENTED EARLIER, ON THE OTHER MAP I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, THE VAP WAS YELLOW, AND THEN TODAY, THE VAP WAS BLUE.
THEN SOMETIMES, YOU HAVE THE WHITE, THE HISPANIC, AND THE BLACK IN THAT ORDER.
THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE THE HISPANIC, THE BLACK, THE WHITE.
CAN YOU BE JUST A LITTLE BIT CONSISTENT, [LAUGHTER] SO THAT WHEN I'M LOOKING, I DON'T HAVE TO GO, "NOW, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT? WHAT IS IT?"
>> JUST HELP ME OUT A LITTLE BIT.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK, DR. ALLEN.
THE DISTINCTION I THINK, AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE TRY TO MAINTAIN AS MUCH CONSISTENCY AS WE CAN, IS THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT IT UP ON THE SCREEN HERE, THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE SOFTWARE PROGRAM, WHICH PUTS IT IN A DIFFERENT COLOR THAN WHEN YOU PRINT IT OUT, UNFORTUNATELY. [LAUGHTER]
>> WELL, I HAVEN'T PRINTED ANYTHING OUT.
>> YOU HAVEN'T? [OVERLAPPING] ALL RIGHT.
WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS CONSISTENT, BECAUSE I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND HOW THAT COULD BE A SOURCE OF CONFUSION.
THE OTHER THING IT DOES SOMETIMES, IS IT'LL PUT THE DISTRICT COLORS, THE SHADING, DOES IT NECESSARILY [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT LINE'S UP TOO.
BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK. I APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT CRUZ. [BACKGROUND] MR. [INAUDIBLE]
>> I KNEW HISTORICALLY IN DISTRICTS V, VI, AND VII, I WANT TO HONOR TRUSTEE BAKER'S REQUEST, BUT THE GULFTON AREA, THOSE AREAS, HAVE A VERY LARGE LATINO POPULATION, BUT BECAUSE THE WAY THE LINES HAVE BEEN DRAWN, THERE'S NEVER BEEN LATINO REPRESENTATION IN THOSE AREAS.
IS THERE A WAY TO HONOR TRUSTEE WADE'S COMMENT EARLIER? COULD WE ADD TWO ADDITIONAL SEATS TO MAYBE GAIN REPRESENTATION IN THAT AREA?
>> THE BOARD DOESN'T HAVE POWER TO ADD SEATS.
THOSE ARE SET BY THE ELECTION CODE.
>> STATE. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
HOW WOULD THAT WORK AS FAR AS LEGISLATION IS CONCERNED, IF YOU HAVE THAT ANSWER OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD?
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S A QUESTION OF LEGISLATION.
I NEED TO LOOK AND SEE, UNDER THE TEXAS EDUCATION CODE, THE NUMBER OF BOARD SEATS THAT CAN BE IN A EDUCATION DISTRICT.
BUT USUALLY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF SEATS, THERE'S NO ELECTION FOR THAT.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ELECTION TO DO THAT.
>> I THINK LISA HAS SOMETHING.
>> THE EDUCATION CODE ITSELF SAYS THAT YOU CAN EITHER BE FIVE OR SEVEN.
YOU GUYS ARE GOVERNED BY A SPECIAL BRACKET BILL IDENTIFIED BY YOUR AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE, AND YOU'RE THE ONLY SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT FITS INTO THAT BRACKET THAT ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE NINE.
FORT WORTH HAS A BRACKET BILL.
AUSTIN HAS GROWN INTO A BRACKET BILL, SO THEY ALSO HAVE NINE BUT FOR DIFFERENT ADA AMOUNTS.
YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT FITS IN YOUR CURRENT ONE.
THERE'S NOT ANOTHER BRACKET THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO GO HIGHER THAN NINE.
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RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE LIMITED TO NINE.>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, LISA. THAT IS LEGISLATION AND NOT VAT?
>> WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY TRUSTEE DEIGAARD VIA ZOOM.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT-
>> I WAS ABLE TO GET MY COMPUTER BACK WORKING. ARE YOU ALL ABLE TO HEAR ME?
>> WE CAN HEAR YOU, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID.
>> HE HAS HIS COMPUTER BACK WORKING.
>> I WAS JUST SAYING I WAS ABLE TO GET MY COMPUTER BACK UP AND RUNNING.
>> QUESTIONS OF COMMENT- [OVERLAPPING]
>> HANG ON ONE SEC, CAMERON. YES.
>> I LIKE THAT. GOOD. QUESTIONS OF COMMENT BECAUSE THAT QUESTION WAS ASKED EVEN BEFORE I GOT ON THE BOARD ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL SEATS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY INCORPORATED NORTH FOREST AREA WHICH WOULD HAVE PROBABLY SUBSTANTIATED ANOTHER SEAT, AND THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE EXPANDED TO 11, WHICH IS WHY THAT WE HAVE A THRESHOLD INDIVIDUALLY PER DISTRICT, CORRECT, BECAUSE OF THAT ABSORPTION, BECAUSE LINES HAD TO BE MOVED AT THAT TIME.
>> YES. IF THE LINES WOULD HAVE BEEN MOVED TO ABSORB, WAS THAT NORTH FOREST ISD AT THE TIME?
>> YES. YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO INCORPORATE THAT POPULATION, AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN ADJUSTMENT.
IT DID BASED ON THAT INCORPORATION.
>> TRUSTEE ALLEN, ARE YOU BACK IN THE QUEUE?
I NEED TO CLEAR. [INAUDIBLE] GO AHEAD.
>> WHEN WE LEFT OFF WHEN WE LOST YOU, CAMERON, I THINK YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT TO GIVE US THE BREAKDOWN OF CHANGES BETWEEN PLAN D AND PLAN E. I'LL LET YOU GO AHEAD AND RESUME THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT, AUSTIN. HOPEFULLY, I CROSS MY FINGERS, NO MORE ISSUES.
RIGHT HERE, FROM III AND IV, THE BOUNDARY CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.
THREE TAKES IN THESE AREAS OVER HERE BY THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON.
THEN DOWN HERE, IV TAKES IN SOME OF THESE AREAS ALONG ITS EASTERN BORDER, IT GIVEN MORE OF A STRAIGHT LINE OVER HERE.
THEN UP HERE, DISTRICT VIII LOSES THESE AREAS RIGHT HERE AND GIVES THAT TO I.
DISTRICT VIII TAKES IN THESE AREAS OVER HERE AROUND THE NORTHSIDE AREA.
THEN UP HERE, WE JUST CLEANED THE BOUNDARY UP A LITTLE BIT BY HAVING I TAKE IN THESE PRECINCTS DOWN HERE.
THEN HAVING II TAKE IN ALL THESE AREAS ALONG THE TOP JUST TO COMBINE THOSE PRECINCTS BACK.
LOOKS LIKE THAT IS ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE BETWEEN DISTRICTS, PLAN D AND PLAN E. THEN ALSO FOR TRUSTEE SANTOS'S COMMENTS, I THINK OUR PLANS B AND C DO HAVE DISTRICT VI AS A MAJORITY HISPANIC DISTRICT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE. [BACKGROUND]
>> CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN III AND VIII IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT THERE? I'M TRYING TO SEE WHERE THAT. [NOISE]
>> CAMERON, YOU CAN ANSWER THAT BETTER THAN I CAN.
WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE GIS MAP, BUT, CAMERON, YOU TELL ME.
>> WE DO HAVE CAMPUSES. GREAT.
>> I FORWARDED IT ON MONDAY, I THINK.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE ME HIGH SCHOOL, BUT I HAD THE ATTENDANCE ZONES APPEAR ON THE MAP.
NOTHING RED, AND THEN THE HIGH SCHOOLS ARE LABELED.
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>> IF WE HAVE HIGH SCHOOLS, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT.
CAMERON. IT MAY GET A LITTLE CROWDED ON THE MAP, BUT WE CAN DO IT.
CAMERON, CAN YOU PLEASE ADD THE LAYERS FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IF YOU CAN?
>> THERE ARE A LOT OF COLUMNS HERE, AND I'M TRYING TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH THE VAP.
WITH THIS ITERATION, WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF THE LATINO VOTE DILUTED, THERE'S NOT EVEN A 50 PERCENT IN THE VAP AREA HERE.
WITH THIS MAP THAT THE BOUNDARIES THAT HAVE BEEN DRAWN, IT COMPLETELY DILUTES THE HISPANIC VOTE.
THIS IS AGAIN, JUST TO GET SOME IDEAS ON AREAS THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
IT MAY BE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK CLOSER AT THE VAP PIECE OF THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT, I HAVE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ATTENDANCE ZONES ARE SHOWN ON HERE.
>> I MEAN, [INAUDIBLE] AND DISTRICT 3 WHICH IS NORMALLY SUPER-STRONG LATINO VOTE LIKE IT EVEN DROPS THE PERCENTAGES THERE.
>> PLAN E IS A 71.24 PERCENT, SO IT IS A STRONG MAJORITY HISPANIC DISTRICT UNDER E?
>> YES, BUT ORIGINALLY IT'S LIKE 79 PERCENT, IT DROPS IT DOWN TO 71.
YOU HAVE DISTRICT 1 WHO'S DROPPED DOWN TO 49, WHERE IT WAS 54 BEFORE THEN 48.
EVERYTHING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THREE IS UNDER 50 PERCENT.
WELL, IT ORIGINALLY THREE JUST FOR THE NUMBER WAS 75.5, AND IT DOES GO DOWN TO 71.24.
OF COURSE, BECAUSE THREE IS LIGHT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE ADDING SOME POPULATION.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME DECREASE THERE, I THINK, NO MATTER WHAT, BUT IN TERMS OF THIS MAP, I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS THE WAY THE BOARD WOULD NEED TO DO IT, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GIVE SOME OTHER OPTIONS OF WHAT TO LOOK AT IT.
IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WANTS TO PURSUE, WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT PLAN B [OVERLAPPING].
>> BUT THE BOARD, IT DOES NOT LIKE THIS OPTION. THANK YOU.
>> MADAM PRESIDENT, MAY I ASK A QUESTION?
>> MR. SEQUECE, YOU ALL USE CITIZEN VOTING AGE PERCENTAGES, AS WELL AS VAP.
DO YOU SEE VAP AS WELL AS VAP OR DO YOU USUALLY USE VAP?
>> IF WE ARE DOING A SECTION 2 ANALYSIS, TECHNICALLY THE METRIC YOU LOOK AT FOR SECTION 2 IS CVAP, BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO ANALYZE EFFECTS ON VOTING OPPORTUNITIES, SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ACTUAL ELIGIBLE VOTERS.
FOR PURPOSES BECAUSE THE CENSUS DOESN'T GIVE US C-VAP, WE USE VAP AS A PROXY FOR THAT.
WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT SPANISH SURNAME REGISTERED VOTERS AS A POTENTIAL PROXY, AND IF IT IS CLOSE, AND WE HAVE CONCERNS, WE CAN ALSO PULL THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY'S DATA TO GET AN ESTIMATE OF C-VAP, BUT IT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE.
>> WELL, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS THAT PARTICULARLY IN THE LATINO POPULATION, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VAP, AND C-VAP CAN BE AS MUCH AS 20 OR 30 PERCENT.
FOR LOOKING AT A VAP, THAT PUTS IT BARELY AT 51 PERCENT, SO ONE WOULD THINK, OH, IT'S A MAJORITY HISPANIC DISTRICT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT C-VAP, THAT COULD BE 30 PERCENT, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE NO VOTING POWER IN THAT SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT.
>> IN TEXAS THAT IS OFTEN THE CASE.
THE CITIZENSHIP NUMBERS JUST TEND TO LAG PRETTY SUBSTANTIALLY BEHIND WHAT YOU'RE VOTING AGE POPULATION NUMBERS ARE.
THIS GETS INTO WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR SECTION TO ANALYSIS, WHICH IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE, IS PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSION.
WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT VERY CLOSE ABOUT NUMBERS, WE DO HAVE TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF OUR MIND THAT ONCE YOU APPLY CITIZENSHIP, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAVE A MAJORITY, THEY'RE EITHER WAY.
>> SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT TRUSTEES SHOULD BE KEEPING IN MIND THAT THERE IS ANOTHER COLUMN IN ADDITION TO THAT WHERE NUMBERS COULD BE FALLING ON THE BASIS OF DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP?
>> ARE WE ABLE TO ADD THAT COLUMN IT SO SEE VAP IS LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND CITIZEN, VOTING AGE, POPULATION.
>> OKAY, SO WHY ARE WE NOT INCLUDING THAT CURRENTLY?
>> THE REASON, AGAIN, IS UNLESS YOU HAVE A PARTICULARLY CLOSE CALL WHERE YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT, THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER THOSE NUMBERS, AND RUN THEM FROM THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEYS.
WE DON'T DO THAT NECESSARILY AS A MATTER, OF COURSE, JUST BECAUSE IT'S OFTEN DOESN'T COME INTO PLAY IF THERE ARE PARTICULAR CONCERNS ABOUT IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN RUN.
>> I'M LISTENING WHEN OBJECTS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS.
>> OKAY. WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
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WE DO SEE THAT THE POPULATION OBVIOUSLY WILL CHANGE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS AS THEY ARE.
OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T DECIPHER OR SEPARATE THOSE THAT ARE CITIZENS OR NOT.
THE C-VAP WOULD DO THAT, CORRECT? THOSE THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS CITIZENS, SO THAT NUMBER WOULD CHANGE.
IN OTHER WORDS, RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE SUCH THAT IT'S SHIFTED LIKE THAT.
WITH A C-VAP IT COULD PROBABLY LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD OR LESSEN IT.
>> WELL, WHAT C-VAP WILL TELL US IS AN ESTIMATE BASED ON SURVEYS.
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE VOTING AGE POPULATION IS, OR WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CITIZENSHIP VOTING AGE POPULATION GOES FOR EACH OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKDOWN.
AGAIN, WHAT THAT TELLS YOU FOR OUR PURPOSES WHEN WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COMPLY WITH SECTION 2 OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, WHICH HAS SOME VERY SPECIFIC LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, WHICH ARE COMPLEX, AND ALSO VERY FACTOR DEPENDENT.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS IN SECTION 2 IN PARTICULAR, YOU LOOK AT IT AS WHETHER OR NOT BASED ON CITIZENSHIP, VOTING, AGE, POPULATION, YOU HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGE, AND GEOGRAPHICALLY COMPACT ENOUGH POPULATION TO FORM ITS OWN DISTRICT, AND WE LOOK AT C-VAP FOR THAT.
IF YOU ARE LOOKING, AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER ELEMENTS TOO.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE TAKE C-VAP INTO ACCOUNT.
AGAIN, IF THERE ARE PARTICULAR CONCERNS ABOUT ANY OF THESE NUMBERS, AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE FROM A VOTING RIGHTS STANDPOINT, I'D CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU ALL SOME LEGAL ANALYSIS ON THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TOPIC SINCE THIS LEGAL ANALYSIS.
>> ABSOLUTELY. SO BASED ON THE COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS SANTOS, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT PLAN D AND SEE IF WE WANT TO WORK FROM THAT AS OPPOSED TO WORKING FROM PLAN E. I'LL TAKE MY DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
I WAS LOOKING FOR THE ORIGINAL PLAN, AND I CAN'T FIND IT.
THEN I GO BACK TO THE LINK IT ONLY HAS A NEW PLANS, SO IF YOU CAN ADD WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY IN TO THAT SYSTEM, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.
>> LIKE THE BENCHMARK MAP? [OVERLAPPING].
>> AND THAT'S FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] OKAY.
>> WHICH MAP WOULD YOU SAY IS THE CLOSEST TO WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE? I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A.
OUR FIRST MAP, WHICH IS WHAT A WOULD'VE BEEN, TENDS TO TRY TO GET YOU IN BALANCE ON THE FEWEST CHANGES POSSIBLE, AND SO A IS MOST LIKELY THE CLOSEST TO THE CURRENT BENCHMARK.
THEN B AND C ARE SOME ALTERNATIVES FROM THAT.
>> OKAY, CAN WE PULL THAT ONE UP? LIKING E JUST BECAUSE IT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE COMPACT BUT ALSO RELAYS.
>> YOU WANT TO PULL UP A JUST TO CLARIFY?
>> I HAVE PLAN A PULLED UP ON THE SCREEN.
>> PLAN A, AGAIN, SINCE THE PLAN HERE OR THE NEED HERE IS TO MOVE POPULATION FROM SEVEN AND FOUR GENERALLY INTO THREE.
PLAN A ACHIEVES THAT BY EXTENDING THREE THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE DISTRICT THERE SO IT CAN ACTUALLY GRAB SOME POPULATION FROM BOTH OF THOSE.
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>> YEAH. DOES THIS ONE HAVE THE LINES OF WHERE THE CHANGES ARE?
>> I WILL GO FOR THAT. HAVE YOU MADE THE CHANGES FROM THE BENCHMARK?
>> IF YOU JUST PUT THE BENCHMARK OVERLAY ON IT.
>> YEAH, THE BENCHMARK LINES ARE HERE IN RED.
>> OKAY. LIFT THE MAP UP A LITTLE BIT.
>> YEAH, I THINK WE'RE ALL JUST LOOKING.
>> HEY WERE YOU ON THE QUEUE FROM BEFORE? OR NO.
>> I THINK IT'S REALLY UP TO US.
MY HOPE WAS THAT WE WOULD COME TO A CONSENSUS ON SOMETHING TO TAKE TO THE COMMUNITY FOR FEEDBACK.
I MEAN, I'VE HEARD FROM COLLEAGUES THAT ARE CONCERNED WITH TWO, TRUSTEES NOT BEING HERE IN PERSON AND THEN ANOTHER COLLEAGUE WANTING THE CVAP TO HAVE.
I WOULD LIKE US AT LEAST TO WALK AWAY WITH A TIMELINE IF WE AREN'T MAKING ANY DECISIONS TODAY TO HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP HAVING WORKSHOPS.
>> DID WE HAVE A PARTICULAR MAP THAT ALL OF US AGREE ON THAT WE CAN ELIMINATE?
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD HER COMMENT.
>> THAT WE CAN AT LEAST ELIMINATE SOME THAT WE DON'T LIKE.
>> A [LAUGHTER] AT LEAST FOR MY DISTRICT.
I LIKE THE BEST, BUT I HADN'T REALLY LOOKED AT THE OTHER NUMBERS.
>> I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT AS WELL.
WILL SOMEBODY IN BOARDS SERVICES, BE ABLE TO ACCESS C SO THAT THEY CAN PRINT THEM OUT FOR US AS WELL?
UNLESS WE CAN PLAY AROUND WITH THE ACTUAL MAPS OURSELVES.
I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT THE CVAP NUMBERS BECAUSE I FEEL A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THESE WERE ACTUALLY VOTING NUMBERS.
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I'M GOOD WITH ELIMINATING E AND A PERSON LIKE B, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WANT IT.I MEAN, WE CAN WORK BACKWARDS AND WE CAN SAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE X, Y, AND Z DONE BY XD, BUT NOT WITHOUT HAVING THE ACTUAL NUMBERS.
>> WE CAN RUN THAT FOR YOU IN A MATTER OF DAYS.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO COME BACK FOR ANOTHER DRAWING SESSION WITH THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE, WE CAN CERTAINLY SCHEDULE THAT.
I GUESS, FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ELIMINATION IF I'LL TAKE MY DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL, IF THE BOARD WAS GENERALLY IN ACCORD WITH D FROM THE LAST MEETING, WE MIGHT LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PARTICULAR CHANGES THAT MIGHT ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMPACTNESS CONCERNS FROM D BECAUSE MAY BE IF WE WERE GENERALLY HAPPY WITH MAYBE WITH A COUPLE OF CHANGES TO D, WE CAN GET YOU TO A SPOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT PRESENTS THE CONCERN THAT YOU HAD THE OR AT LEAST IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO PROCEED, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT OR WE CAN JUST SCHEDULE AND COME BACK WITH THIS EVENT NUMBERS EITHER WAY.
>> I DO HAVE ANOTHER SUGGESTION.
LISA, HOW POSSIBLE WOULD IT BE, AND WOULD IT BE WITHIN OUR RULE TO LET NON-CITIZENS VOTE IN SCHOOL BOARD ELECTIONS.
>> THE ELIGIBILITY FOR THOSE WHO CAN VOTE AS DETERMINED IN THE ELECTION CODE.
IT'S DETERMINED BY THE LEGISLATURE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY AS A BOARD TO CHANGE THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO BE A REGISTERED OR ELIGIBLE VOTER IN TEXAS.
>> WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION, WE DON'T HAVE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE STUDENTS, BUT WE COULD, SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT THE ACTUAL SCHOOL BOARD AFFECTS UNLESS IT'S WE GO TO THE LEGISLATURE TO CHANGE THAT?
>> YES. THE LEGISLATURE DETERMINES THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SOMEONE TO REGISTER TO VOTE AND YOU HAVE TO BE REGISTERED TO VOTE AND SO INDIVIDUAL JURISDICTIONS DON'T MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
>> BY JURISDICTIONS, I MEAN, GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES.
>> IN MY HEAD, LIKE GOING THROUGH MAYBE MAKING IT A BIT MORE LOCAL, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S SCHOOL BOARDS, BUT ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THE STATE DOESN'T PAY US, SO THEY DON'T HAVE THAT.
THEY DO HAVE JURISDICTION OVER ITS WAY.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLIC SAY THAT I AM FOR THE ELIMINATION OF MAPS, B AS IN BOY, AND C AS IN CHARLIE BECAUSE THE CITIZENS IN THOSE AREAS HAVE VESTED INTEREST IN THE SCHOOLS IN THOSE AREAS AND B AND C REDRAWS UNNECESSARILY AT A DISTRICT THAT'S CLOSE TO WHAT THE CENSUS REQUIRES.
IN FACT, I WORKED FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF THE CENSUS JUST PASS THEM AROUND [NOISE] AND THE PARENTS AND THE CITIZENS AND VOTERS ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH ME AND ACHIEVING BETTER STUDENT OUTCOMES IN AN AREA I'M THEIR NEWLY ELECTED TRUSTEE, AND THAT WOULD TOTALLY REWRITE MINE.
IT'S OUR DISTRICT B AND C. I AM ASKING FOR THE ELIMINATION OF B AND C.
>> WHEN ARE WE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THIS DONE BY?
I HAD ARTICULATED BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR WOULD BE GOOD.
A LOT OF OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE ALREADY DONE THEIR REDISTRICTING.
>> DO WE WANT TO CREATE BACKWARD PLANNING FROM THEM?
>> PRESIDENT CRUZ, JUST TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT, MOST OF THESE REDISTRICTING ARE TIED TO WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR ELECTION, SO YOUR NEXT ELECTION IS LATER THAN A LOT OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE ELECTIONS IN NOVEMBER EVERY OTHER YEAR IN AN ODD YEAR, SO YOU HAVE UNTIL NOVEMBER OF 2023 TO GET YOUR REDISTRICTING DONE.
A LOT OF OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAD TO GET THEIR REDISTRICTING DONE IN ORDER TO BEGIN DOING IT IN MAY OF THIS YEAR OR IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR, YOU JUST ARE ON A LONGER CYCLE, SO YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GET IT DONE THAN SOME OF YOUR BROTHER AND SISTER SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
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>> TRUE. I WOULD JUST ARGUE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE ABSOLUTE LAST MINUTE BECAUSE FOLKS THAT ARE PLANNING TO RUN MIGHT BE DRAWN OUT OF THAT.
>> ABSOLUTELY, TRUST YOU, BECAUSE I JUST DIDN'T WANT THE BOARD TO THINK THAT OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS WERE DOING IT SO MUCH SOONER THAN THEY WERE DOING IT BECAUSE THEY HAD TO IN RESPONSE TO THEIR ELECTION, BUT ABSOLUTELY NOT WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU.
[LAUGHTER] TRUSTEE [INAUDIBLE] YOU HAD A COMMENT.
>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH THE DECEMBER BECAUSE IF WE DO IN NOVEMBER OF 2023, I'M JUST NOT CLOSE ENOUGH.
OUR NEXT ELECTION IS NOVEMBER OF 2023.
YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP BY AUGUST OF 2023.
AT LEAST IF WE'D DONE BY DECEMBER, THAT WILL GIVE THE COMMUNITY FROM JANUARY TO AUGUST TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEIR VOTING AREA IS AND WHO THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR.
>> IF WE DO AUGUST OF '22, MAYBE. I'M SORRY, DECEMBER.
>> THANK YOU. SO DECEMBER OF 2022, IT WOULD BE ON OUR MEETING AGENDA AND OUR DEADLINE TO GET SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA IS THE SECOND FRIDAY OF THE PRIOR MONTH, SO THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE, IF ANYBODY HAS A CALENDAR, HANDY.
SO THE DEADLINE WOULD BE NOVEMBER 11TH.
BASICALLY, BY NOVEMBER 11TH, WE NEED TO HAVE IT FINALIZED.
>> JUST BEAR IN MIND WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT SCHEDULING AND I KNOW YOU ARE ALREADY AWARE OF THIS, BUT THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS CAN BE BASICALLY THE MOST TIME-INTENSIVE PROCESS, AND THE ONE THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAPPEN AT A REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD MEETING FOR WHICH YOU'LL NEED SPECIAL SCHEDULING.
ONCE YOU HIT NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, YOU'RE RUNNING UP AGAINST HOLIDAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO JUST KEEP ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SCHEDULING THE PROCESS OUT.
>> HOW LONG DO YOU [INAUDIBLE].
>> AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY MEETINGS YOU WANT TO HAVE, BUT I'M SORRY.
[LAUGHTER] I WOULD GIVE YOURSELF REALISTICALLY BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO MORE THAN ONE-ON-ONE NIGHT AND SO REALISTICALLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING YOURSELF AND THEN HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BETWEEN, I'D GIVE YOURSELF A GOOD 2-3 WEEKS TO DO THAT.
IF NOT A FULL MONTH, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS.
>> THEN AFTER THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS, YOU SAID YOU GUYS COMPILE A REPORT?
>> GIVE THAT BACK TO THE BOARD.
WHAT IS THE PROCESS TYPICALLY LOOK LIKE AFTER THAT? [OVERLAPPING]
>> AFTER WE'VE HAD THAT PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS.
WE CAN, IF IT'S AT THE BOARD, WOULD HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL OR AN ADDITIONAL DRAWING SESSION JUST TO INCORPORATE ANY CHANGES THAT COME OUT OF THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC INPUT, WILL HAVE A FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING WHICH IS AT A REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD MEETING, WHERE THE BOARD WILL HEAR ALL THIS PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE PODIUM HERE.
OFTENTIMES THAT WILL BE THE PENULTIMATE MEETING AND THEN THEY'LL COME BACK AFTER THAT PUBLIC HEARING AND DO A FINAL ADOPTION.
IT IS ALSO POSSIBLE IF YOU DON'T THINK THEY'LL BE MUCH IN THE WAY OF CHANGES OR OBJECTION AT THE PUBLIC HEARING TO DO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE ADOPTION ON THE SAME NIGHT.
FRANKLY, WE CAN SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTION ON THE SAME NIGHT AND THEN IF IT TURNS OUT AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT YOU NEED ANOTHER BOARD MEETING, WE CAN SET THAT TOO.
I WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT PROBABLY THE WAY YOU WOULD LOOK AT IT IS DUE TO THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS, HAVE ONE MEETING WHERE WE CAN CHECK IN AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE READY TO GO TO THE FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN SCHEDULE A FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE OPTION TO ADOPT.
THEN OF COURSE, WE NEED TO GO BEYOND THAT, YOU CAN DO IT.
SO PUBLIC INPUT AND THEN PROBABLY TWO MEETINGS AFTER THAT.
>> ARE ALL THESE MEETINGS AND ALL THESE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS CONVERSATION, ARE THEY ALL UNDER ONE CONTRACT WITH THE DISTRICT? IS THE WHOLE PROCESS UNDER ONE CONTRACT OR IS IT, I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT THE TIME AND THE EXPENSE AND ALL OF THAT THAT GOES INTO THIS,
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WHAT THAT DRAWS FROM OUR.>> YES. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH OUR FIRMS SPECIFICALLY?
>> YES, IT'S ALL UNDER THE ENGAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH OUR FIRM.
ONCE WE GET INTO PUBLIC HEARING STUFF THAT'S NOT COVERED UNDER A FLAT FEE, SO YOUR OBSERVATION THAT THE MORE PUBLIC HEARINGS YOU DO, THE MORE COSTS THERE WILL BE AND CERTAINLY INACCURATE ONE.
>> I THINK THIS MIGHT BE A LEGAL QUESTION, BUT WHEN DO WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO BE PLACED ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT, SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR ANOTHER SPECIAL ELECTION?
>> IF WE WANTED SOMETHING ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT, NOVEMBER 22, WHAT'S THE DEADLINE FOR BEING ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING PLACED ON THAT BALLOT.
>> ONLY THE BOARD VOTES ON THIS.
MY UNDERSTANDING THIS ISN'T A PUBLIC VOTE, THE PUBLIC'S INPUT.
LISA, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. THE REASON WHY IT'S TIED TO THE ELECTION AS IT AFFECTS WHAT SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICTS VOTERS ARE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE IN.
SO WE'VE GOT TO COMPLETE THIS PROCESS 90 DAYS BEFORE THE FIRST ELECTION, WHERE WE BEGIN PHASING THESE SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICTS IN, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S ALWAYS TIED TO YOUR ELECTION DAY.
BUT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE VOTERS VOTE ON, IT JUST MAY CHANGE WHERE THEY VOTE AND FOR WHOM THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE.
>> THANK YOU. I WAS CONFUSED WHEN I HEARD THE WORD SPECIAL ELECTION. TIMED ME OFF.
>> CLARIFYING, THE BOARD VOTES ON IT NOT THE PUBLIC.
>> WHICH IS WHY WE CAN DO THE BOARD ADOPTION THE SAME NIGHT AS THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THE PUBLIC HEARING COULD BE IN DECEMBER.
>> [OVERLAPPING]. WELL, LET ME JUST BE CLEAR ABOUT MY NOMENCLATURE BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE A HEARING HERE BEFORE THE BOARD.
THE PUBLIC INPUT MEETINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY UP TO NINE, OUR COMMUNITY INPUT MEETINGS WHERE WE ACTUALLY GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, PRESENT THE PLANS, GET INPUT AT THAT POINT.
IT JUST GIVES A BROADER REACH FOR PUBLIC INPUT THEN HAVING THE ONE HEARING AT THE BOARD MEETING?
>> OF COURSE, IT'S AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD.
THAT'S NOT A LEGAL REQUIREMENT PER SE.
IT'S JUST AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD.
WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE OUR COMMUNITY INPUT COMPLETE SEPTEMBER OR NO LATER THAN OCTOBER.
WE ACTUALLY DON'T MEET AGAIN AS A BOARD UNTIL AUGUST.
THE EARLIEST WE COULD MEET AGAIN WITH YOU AND THE FIRM WOULD BE THE FIRST WEEK OF AUGUST TRUST YOU HERNANDEZ.
>> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE A PLAN, WHICH IT'S JUST [OVERLAPPING] IN AUGUST, WE MEET AGAIN.
[LAUGHTER] IN SEPTEMBER, WE DO PUBLIC INPUT.
THEN WE CAN DO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND OCTOBER IN CASE WE NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
JUST SUPER SIMPLE TIMELINE FOR NOW, JUST SO THAT WE CAN GET THE BALL ROLLING.
>> WE REPEAT IT ONE MORE TIME.
>> WE MEET IN AUGUST, ONE MORE TIME THAT THE FULL BOARD IS HERE, SEPTEMBER, DO THE PUBLIC INPUT MEETINGS, AND THEN OCTOBER DO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
>> DOES THAT SOUND PLAUSIBLE TO YOU?
>> IT DOES AND THAT'LL GET YOU DOWN ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN DECEMBER.
MOST LIKELY. YOU'LL HAVE SOME TIME ON THE BACK END OF THE SCHEDULE IF FOR ANY REASON THERE IS AN OVERRUN.
>> WE ALWAYS WANT A BUILT-IN, SOME EXTRA CUSHION FOR OURSELVES.
>> HERNANDEZ CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION FOR THE AUGUST.
IN AUGUST, WE MEET THREE TIMES ESSENTIALLY, THE FIRST THREE THURDAYS OF THE MONTH.
IF WE NEED TO CHANGE SOMETHING UP WITHIN OURSELVES, WE CAN UTILIZE THOSE THREE MEETING TO DO SO.
>> I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FIRM IS AVAILABLE.
>> SEQUENCE WE MEET ON THE FIRST, SECOND, AND THIRD THURDAYS OF THE MONTH.
ACTUAL BOARD MEETINGS IS AT 2:00 PM, AND THEN HEARINGS ARE FROM 9:00-12:00.
ON THE THIRD THURSDAY OF THE MONTH.
ARE THOSE TIMES THAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY [OVERLAPPING]
>> I MAKE A COVENANT THAT BETWEEN SIT AND MYSELF THAT WE CAN COVER WHATEVER YOU ALL NEED US TO DO.
>> ALL THAT IF I MAY HAVE BELIEVE THAT MR. FOX INDICATED THAT HE'S GOING TO BE ON VACATION OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
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A GOOD PART WAS IN AUGUST.>> I WILL CONFIRM THAT WITH HIM.
>> I MAY BE MISTAKEN, BUT HE DID TELL ME THAT HIS VACATION WAS GOING TO BE AN EXTENDED VACATION WHERE HE PROBABLY CAN'T BE REACHED.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN AUGUST THAT HE SAID.
>> WAIT, COLLEAGUES ARE YOU ALL OKAY WITH THAT AS WELL?
>> I JUST WANTED TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION.
I'VE GOTTEN INTO KEY WORDS GOES TO FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS.
BUT THE PUBLIC INPUT MEETING IN THE OCTOBER TO DANNY'S POINT, HAVING THAT THOSE TIMELINES, THOSE BENCHMARKS.
ONCE WE HAD THE PUBLIC INPUT MEETING, THAT'LL BE ALL GENERAL MEETING HERE, CORRECT?
>> THE PUBLIC INPUT WILL BE [NOISE] PROBABLY [OVERLAPPING] IN THE DISTRICT SOMEWHERE.
>> THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD HAVE THE PUBLIC INPUT MEETING FIRST I'M SORRY, THE COMMENTS FIRST, GENERALLY HERE.
THEN ONCE WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION THAN INDEPENDENTLY, WE COULD GO BACK TO OUR COMMUNITIES RATHER THAN HAVE YOU ALL GO TO ALL NINE DISTRICTS TO DO THAT COMMENT PERIOD.
BECAUSE AFTER WE DECIDE ON SOMETHING OR HAVE A GENERAL IDEA, ONE OF TWO PLANS OR SOMETHING, SAY ONE OF TWO, MAYBE THREE PLANS AND GO OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY AS REPRESENTATIVES AND PRESENT IT AS OPPOSED TO YOU ALL HAVING TO DO ALL THAT PRESENTATION TO ALL NINE DISTRICTS.
[OVERLAPPING] ACTUALLY IT SAVES MONEY.
>> HOWEVER YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO HANDLE THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO FACILITATE.
IF YOU WOULD PREFER TO DO A PUBLIC HEARING HERE FIRST AND THEN GO OUT AND HAVE TOWN HALL STYLE MEETINGS IN WHICH YOU ALL DO THE PRESENTATION.
THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING SUBJECT TO THE DISTRICTS COUNCIL'S THOUGHTS ON IT.
>> WELL, I DO HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON IT.
BUT THIS AREA OF THE LAW WITH YOU GUYS PRESENTING THE MAP, THERE ARE SOME TRAPS FOR THE WEARY.
AS MR. SEACREST ALLUDED TO, WE'VE GOT SOME OBLIGATIONS UNDER SECTION 2 WHICH WE'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL IN CLOSED SESSION.
WE WOULD WANT TO BE SPEAKING IN ONE VOICE ABOUT THOSE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
YOUR COMMENTS WOULD NEED TO BE VERY SCRIPTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE AND THAT THE PUBLIC IS HEARING THE SAME THING AND ALL NINE DISTRICTS THAT MAKE SENSE.
>> I'M ALL FOR SAVING MONEY, BUT I THINK JUST TO ADD TO THAT, JUST EVEN THE CONSISTENCY OF GATHERING THE FEEDBACK, THEY'RE ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE IT AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE CONSISTENT AND DO LEAVE ANY PIECES OUT WHEREAS IF WE'RE DOING IT, WE'RE TRYING TO FACILITATE THE MEETING AND TAKE NOTES SIMULTANEOUSLY.
I THINK IT'S JUST THE LOG. I DEFINITELY WANT TO BE AT THE MEETINGS AS MANY AS I CAN BE.
>>I WOULD SAY IF YOU CAN BE AVAILABLE ON THE FIRST THURSDAY OF AUGUST.
WE TYPICALLY WHICH WOULD BE AUGUST 4TH, WE WOULD START AT 5:00.
IF WE COULD MEET EARLIER COLLEAGUES 2:00 PM TO MEET ON AUGUST 4TH.
[OVERLAPPING] IF WE COULD PENCIL THAT IN AND THEN I WOULD SAY TENTATIVELY ONE MORE THURSDAY THAT MONTH IN CASE WE DON'T FINALIZE ANYTHING THAT DAY, BUT I REALLY HOPE WE DO.
>> NO, AUGUST 4TH, THE DAY OF AGENDA REVIEW, [NOISE].
>> SEPARATE POSTING, I THINK AT THREE.
>> MADAM PRESIDENT, [OVERLAPPING] I DO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE SCHEDULED FOR THE MONTH OF AUGUST, ONE ADDITIONAL SPECIAL MEETING ON THE 25TH, WHICH ARE YOUR POLICIES, YOU START MEETING IN THE MORNING.
I'M NOT FOR SURE HOW LONG IT WOULD GO.
BUT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE MEETINGS, IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A SECOND GO ROUND AT THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF MR. SEACREST WOULD BE AVAILABLE ON THE AFTERNOON OF THAT DAY.
THAT WOULD BE PERHAPS A POSSIBILITY INSTEAD OF YOU GUYS HAVING TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING ON ANOTHER DAY SINCE YOU'RE ALREADY RESERVING THAT THURSDAY ON YOUR CALENDAR.
BUT IT'S A LOT OF POLICY, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TIME.
IT IS A LOT, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE STARTING AT 9:00, IT MAY GO WELL INTO THE LATE AFTERNOON.
>> I THINK IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ADD TO SEE THAT INFORMATION TO THAT FOLDER THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO.
THAT GIVES US A FEW WEEKS TO LOOK IT OVER BEFORE WE MEET.
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ANYWAY, DANNY, ARE YOU IN THE QUEUE?>> YES. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU, MR. SEACREST.
DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR US TO BE READY FOR OUR NEXT MEETING?
>> THE THING I WOULD COME IN TO YOU ALL IS ONE, I THINK WHAT WE'VE HEARD SOME OF TODAY IS KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE, AND BE ABLE TO GIVE US THAT.
THEN THE OTHER THING IS, I WOULD TAKE A LOOK BACK AT THAT PLAN D, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY SAY ANYTHING OTHER THAN SOME CONCERNS ABOUT COMPACTNESS, WHICH I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS INDIVIDUALLY PERHAPS.
BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THAT PLAN D AND JUST SEE WHAT IT IS THAT FOLKS LIKE ABOUT THAT AND WHERE THEY MIGHT LIKE TO SEE SOME CHANGES BECAUSE THAT SEEMS CURRENTLY AND AGAIN, I DON'T MEAN TO SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE, BUT FROM WHERE I'M STANDING, IT JUST SEEMS TO BE WHERE THERE'S THE MOST CONSENSUS RIGHT NOW.
I ALWAYS THINK IT'S MORE EFFICIENT TO WORK FROM WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST CONSENSUS AND DIDN'T TRY TO GET IT AS GOOD AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
ONE OF THE OTHER THING I WILL SAY TO YOU ALL IS THAT TO ARRIVE AT THE PLANS WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUT, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE JUST ONE.
IF WE GET A COUPLE OF GOOD OPTIONS THAT FOLKS GENERALLY LIKE, WE CAN PUT BOTH OF THOSE OUT AND THEN GET INPUT AND THEN YOU ALL CAN DISCUSS THAT AS YOU GO ON TOWARDS ADOPTION.
THEN THERE CAN BE A VOTE BETWEEN PRODUCTS.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE JUST TO START THE PROCESS, WE HAVE TO GET TO THE FINAL PRODUCT OR SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY LIKES.
IF WE CAN GET A COUPLE THAT MOST FOLKS ARE AT LEAST OKAY WITH, WE CAN PUT THOSE OUT AND THEN WORK FROM THERE.
THAT WAY WE KEEP THE PROCESS MOVING.
>> I JUST WANTED TO DISCUSS I KNOW THAT WE SAID WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T LIKE B, C, AND E. IF WE FOCUSED ON AND D WITH LIKE TRUSTEE WEIGHTS AND WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TWO.
WE MIGHT PUT OUR FOCUS ON A AND D AND DECIDE THAT.
ON A AND D AND THEN JUST BASICALLY CUT OUT B, C, AND E. WE WOULD BE MORE FOCUSED WHEN WE COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER.
>>WELL, YOU HAVE A NEW ITERATIONS WITH THE SEAT BELT FOR B, C AND WHATEVER ONES YOU JUST SAID.
>> I HAD A AND D WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL GIVE YOU SEE THIS NUMBERS ON HOW WE GET INTO PROBLEM.
YES, WE WILL PROVIDE THAT TO YOU.
I'LL GET BACK WITH MY GIS FOLKS THIS AFTERNOON AND WE'LL START WORKING ON THAT CERTAINLY WHILE BEFORE THE MEETING IN AUGUST.
>> CITIZEN VOTING, AGE, POPULATION.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT THIS WAY AND HELPING US GET TO THE NEXT STEP.
I THINK WE'RE ALL VERY NEW IN THIS PROCESS AND TRYING TO PUT IN OUR THOUGHTS AND BE INTENTIONAL.
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE'LL SEE YOU ON AUGUST 4TH.
>> ABSOLUTELY, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
IT MAY BE SAID WHO'S HERE ON AUGUST 4TH, BUT ONE OF US CERTAINLY WILL BE AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR TIME AND YOUR HARD WORK IN THIS PROCESS.
WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH ALL OF YOU.
>> WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO DISCUSS.
THIS MEETING OF THE BOARD IS ADJOURNED.
THE TIME IS BELOW 9:00 PM ON JUNE 16TH, 2022, WHEN ASBESTOS.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.