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>> GOOD AFTERNOON.

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THIS MEETING IS NOW CONVENED.

THE TIME IS 2:02 PM.

BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT IN THE BOARD AUDITORIUM ARE TRUSTEE WADE, TRUSTEE GUIDRY, TRUSTEE SANTOS, TRUSTEE CRUZ, TRUSTEE BLUEFORD-DANIELS, TRUSTEE DEIGAARD, TRUSTEE BAKER, TRUSTEE HERNANDEZ.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES.

OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO HEAR FROM SPEAKERS TO SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS. HOWEVER, WE HAVE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

WE WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR MEETING TOPIC, REDISTRICTING,

[REDISTRICTING PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION, INCLUDING MAP DRAWING]

PRESENTATION, AND DISCUSSION, INCLUDING MAP DRAWING.

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME [INAUDIBLE] PARTNER AT THE LAW FIRM BICKERSTAFF HEATH, WHO WILL BE LEADING THIS PRESENTATION.

[INAUDIBLE], THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

>> MY PLEASURE. GOOD AFTERNOON.

LET ME DO A LITTLE BIT OF INTERNAL HOUSEKEEPING.

MY DRAWER WHO'S IN DALLAS SAYS HE HAS NOT BEEN ADMITTED TO THE MEETING YET, SO LET ME CHECK WITH YOUR GUY.

>> HE'S SEATED.

>> HE'S IN? ALL RIGHT. CAMERON, CAN YOU-

>> I'M IN A MEETING NOW. I GOT EVERYTHING PULLED UP.

>> OKAY. GOOD. WE ARE HERE TODAY FOR THE FIRST DRAWING SESSION, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE THE ABILITY AFTER I HAVE GIVEN YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A SPIEL AND DESCRIBED A COUPLE OF EXAMPLE PLANS TO ACTUALLY OPEN ONE OF THE PLANS AND CHANGE IT AROUND IN REAL-TIME.

WE'RE GOING TO START BY LOOKING AT THE EXISTING DISTRICTS, AND THE MAP YOU'RE SEEING NOW IS THAT.

THIS IS WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.

CAMERON, IF YOU'LL SHOW THE POPULATION TABLE.

LET ME REMIND YOU THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN EACH DISTRICT BETWEEN ITS CURRENT ACTUAL POPULATION AND WHAT WE CALL THE IDEAL SIZE.

>> SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

>> SORRY TO INTERRUPT. WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY TRUSTEE ALLEN. GO AHEAD.

>> THE IDEAL DISTRICT SIZE IS THE TOTAL POPULATION OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DIVIDED BY THE NUMBER OF SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICTS, NINE.

THAT'S THE POPULATION THAT EVERY DISTRICT WOULD HAVE IF THEY WERE GOING TO BE PERFECTLY EQUAL IN SIZE.

WHEN I REFER TO SIZE, I'M OF COURSE TALKING ABOUT POPULATION.

THE REASON WE DEFINE THAT IS TO HAVE BASICALLY A TARGET, A BENCHMARK IF YOU WILL.

THE IDEA IS WE HAVE TO GET THE TOTAL DEVIATION FROM THE MOST POPULOUS TO THE LEAST POPULOUS DISTRICT DOWN BELOW 10 PERCENT.

THE WAY WE MEASURE THAT IS TO LOOK AT EACH DISTRICT'S ACTUAL CURRENT SIZE AND COMPARE IT TO THE IDEAL SIZE AND ASK WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE IDEAL SIZE DOES THE DISTRICT'S ACTUAL POPULATION DEPART FROM.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COLUMN THAT'S LABELED DEVIATION, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S MEASURING.

DISTRICT 1 IS AT MINUS 4.71 PERCENT, WHICH IS 4.71 PERCENT OF THE IDEAL SIZE, UNDERPOPULATED.

DISTRICT 2 IS VERY CLOSE TO BEING THE IDEAL SIZE.

DISTRICT 3 IS THE MOST UNDERPOPULATED DISTRICT AT MINUS 14.63 PERCENT.

IF YOU LOOK DOWN TO DISTRICT 7, YOU WILL SEE THAT IT IS THE MOST OVERPOPULATED DISTRICT AT PLUS 11.17 PERCENT FOLLOWED CLOSELY BY DISTRICT 4 AT 9.69 PERCENT.

THE OTHER DISTRICTS ARE ALL WITHIN PLUS OR MINUS FIVE PERCENT OF THE IDEAL SIZE.

THAT'S A GOOD RULE OF THUMB FOR WHEN YOU'RE DRAWING.

YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT WITHIN THAT PLUS OR MINUS FIVE PERCENT.

YOU COULD HAVE ONE DISTRICT AT SIX PERCENT OVER AND THE LEAST POPULATED DISTRICT THEN COULD NOT BE MORE THAN 3.99 PERCENT UNDER, SO THAT THE TOTAL OF THOSE TWO DEVIATIONS IS LESS THAN 10 PERCENT.

THE GOAL IS TO GET US LESS THAN 10 PERCENT, BUT A WAY OF THINKING ABOUT IT IS TO TRY TO GET EVERYBODY WITHIN ABOUT PLUS OR MINUS FIVE PERCENT.

JUST EYEBALL RULE OF THUMB.

THE TASK IN REDRAWING IS GOING TO SHED POPULATION FROM DISTRICT 7 AND 4 AND ADD POPULATION PRIMARILY TO DISTRICT 3.

CAMERON, IF YOU'LL GO BACK TO THE MAP.

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DISTRICT 4 AND DISTRICT 7 NEED TO SHED POPULATION AND DISTRICT 3 NEEDS TO GAIN IT, BUT DISTRICT 3 DOES NOT TOUCH DISTRICT 7.

THE WAY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO POPULATE DISTRICT 3, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAYS, WILL BE TO SHED POPULATION, FOR INSTANCE, FROM DISTRICT 4 INTO DISTRICT 3.

IN ORDER TO SHED POPULATION FROM DISTRICT 7, IT'S POSSIBLE TO PUT SOME OF THAT IN DISTRICT 4 AND ONLY REALLY AFFECT ALL THREE OF THOSE DISTRICTS.

THAT'S ONE BASIC KIND OF AN APPROACH.

A VARIATION ON THAT IS ACTUALLY THE APPROACH THAT PLAN A, THAT'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE, TOOK, WHICH WAS ALSO TO TRANSFER POPULATION FROM DISTRICT 7 INTO DISTRICT 8, AND HAVE 8 SHED SOME POPULATION INTO 3.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE PUSHING POPULATION THROUGH AN ADJACENT DISTRICT.

IT'S ONE WAY TO THINK ABOUT DOING THAT.

CAMERON, IF YOU WILL GO TO THE MAP FOR PLAN A.

THESE THREE EXAMPLE PLANS ARE JUST THAT.

I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THEY ARE JUST EXAMPLES.

THEY ARE TO GET YOU THINKING ABOUT WHAT HAS TO BE DONE.

THE RELATIVE SIZE OF THE CHANGE GETS ILLUSTRATED BY THESE THREE PLANS.

THE KINDS OF OPTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, NOT ALL OF THEM BUT SOME OF THEM, GET ILLUSTRATED BY THESE PLANS.

THEY ARE TO GET YOU THINKING BOTH ABOUT THE PARTS THAT YOU THINK IS OKAY AND THE PARTS THAT YOU THINK AREN'T OKAY.

THE WAY TO LOOK AT THESE IS THAT THE COLORS ARE THE PROPOSED NEW DISTRICTS AND THE RED LINES ARE THERE FOR REFERENCE.

THOSE ARE THE CURRENT DISTRICTS.

ANYTIME YOU SEE A COLOR BLEED ACROSS A RED LINE, THAT'S AN AREA WHERE A CHANGE HAS BEEN PROPOSED.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, YOU CAN SEE THAT DISTRICT 4 GIVES UP SOME POPULATION TO DISTRICT 3 IN THAT LITTLE LEG IN THE NORTHWEST PART OF DISTRICT 4.

DISTRICT 8 GIVES UP SOME POPULATION TO DISTRICT 3, PARTLY TO CONNECT THAT PART THAT CAME FROM 7.

THERE YOU ALWAYS GOT TO BE SURE YOU'RE CONNECTING WHAT IT IS YOU'RE MOVING, AND THAT TURNS OUT TO BE A FAIR AMOUNT OF POPULATION.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT DISTRICT 3 GAVE UP SOME POPULATION TO DISTRICT 8 FROM THE NORTHERN PART OF DISTRICT 3 AND DISTRICT 8, WHICH HAD GIVEN UP SOME POPULATION TO 3, GOT SOME OF IT BACK THAT WAY.

DISTRICT 4 GAVE UP SOME POPULATION TO DISTRICT 3 IN THAT SAME NORTHWEST AREA, AND THAT'S HOW IT SHED POPULATION.

IF YOU WILL SHOW US, CAMERON, THE POPULATION TABLE.

>> AS WE PROGRESS AND MOVE FORWARD IF YOU DON'T MIND-

>> I'M SORRY.

>> AS WE PROGRESS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSALS THAT YOU HAVE SUGGESTED, IS THERE A WAY TO DO AN OVERLAY OF THE CURRENT DISTRICTS AND THEIR LINES COMPARED WITH WHAT THE SUGGESTIONS ARE?

>> THOSE ARE ALREADY ON THE MAP.

GO BACK TO THE MAP, CAMERON.

THE RED LINES THERE ARE THE CURRENT DISTRICT LINES.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT DISTRICT 4 FOR INSTANCE, NOTICE THAT LITTLE PENINSULA OFF TO THE TOP LEFT OF DISTRICT 4, THAT'S NOW YELLOW, GOT MOVED FROM DISTRICT 4 INTO DISTRICT 3.

>> I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WITH MAPPINGS, THAT YOU CAN DO A CLEAR OVERLAY SO THAT YOU CAN SEE CURRENT VERSUS PROPOSED.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. BUT OKAY. I GOT IT. THANK YOU.

>> LET ME BACK UP. WE CAN DO THAT WHEN WE'RE IN THE LIVE SOFTWARE.

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW ARE PDFS, THEY'RE PICTURES SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FASTER.

IT TAKES A WHILE TO OPEN AND CLOSE A PLAN IN THE SOFTWARE.

THIS IS AS CLOSE TO AN OVERLAY AS WE CAN GET IN THAT RESPECT.

CAMERON, BACK TO THE TABLE.

[BACKGROUND] IF YOU CAN SHOW US THE DEVIATIONS FIGURE IN THE LOWER LEFT, CAMERON.

THERE YOU GO. THIS ONE WENT FROM A DEVIATION OF 25.8 PERCENT IN YOUR CURRENT DISTRICTS DOWN TO 8.11 PERCENT.

YOU CAN SEE THAT DISTRICT 7 IS STILL THE MOST OVERPOPULATED,

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BUT NOW INSTEAD OF BEING 15 OR 16 PERCENT, IT'S DOWN TO 3.4 PERCENT.

DISTRICT 1 IS THE LEAST POPULATED AT MINUS 4.71 PERCENT.

IT WAS NOT CHANGED IN THIS PLAN.

POINT BEING, THIS PLAN IS BALANCED, AND THEREFORE, IT'S A REASONABLE EXAMPLE OF THE SIZE AND SCALE OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO REDRAW BALANCED DISTRICTS.

SHOW US THE MAP FOR PLAN A ONE MORE TIME BEFORE WE LEAVE IT.

[BACKGROUND] THAT'S ONE SET OF OPTIONS AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SMALL CHANGE IN 4, AND A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE IN 7, IF YOU LOOK TO THE VERY TOP WHERE THE BLUE IS, THAT WAS FORMERLY IN 7, AND THAT'S PART OF HOW SEVEN SHARED POPULATION.

IT'S NOW PART OF 8.

BUT WE DIDN'T TOUCH 6, OR 9, OR 1, OR 2.

THIS ONE IS AN ATTEMPT AT A MINIMAL CHANGE PLAN IF YOU WILL, THE IDEA BEING TO TRY TO MAKE THE FEWEST POPULATION MOVES THAT WE CAN.

SINCE MANY OF THE DISTRICTS WERE WITHIN THAT PLUS OR MINUS 5 PERCENT TO START WITH, WE CAN LEAVE THEM ALONE.

CAMERON, IF YOU'LL SHOW US PLAN B.

AS YOU WILL NOTICE IMMEDIATELY THERE ARE LOTS OF PLACES IN THIS EXAMPLE PLAN WHERE CHANGES WERE MADE.

THIS REPRESENTS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT APPROACH, THE ADDITION TO DISTRICT 3 TO GET ITS POPULATION UP, STILL LOOKS SIMILAR IN THE NORTHWEST PART OF IT.

BUT IN ADDITION IN THE VERY SOUTHWEST PART, WE TOOK A LITTLE POPULATION FROM DISTRICT 4.

THE APPROACH TO DISTRICT 3 IS STILL VERY SIMILAR.

DISTRICT 8 APPROACH IS SIMILAR THAT IS, IT GREW AND BECAME A LITTLE MORE ELONGATED IN THE WEST, BUT NOT QUITE THE SAME ELONGATION AS IN THE PREVIOUS EXAMPLE.

IN PARTICULAR THE AREA OF DISTRICT 7, UP IN THE VERY TOP OF THE EAST PART OF 7, WHICH HAD GONE TO DISTRICT 8, WHICH WAS BLUE IN THE LAST PLAN IS NOW THAT LAVENDER OR PINK, AND WAS TRANSFERRED TO DISTRICT 1.

DISTRICT 2 IN ADDITION, GAINED SOME POPULATION FROM DISTRICT 8 IN THE VERY NORTHEAST PORTION, THE BIGGEST CHANGE THAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS THAT DISTRICT 6 INSTEAD OF BEING THE L-SHAPE THAT EXTENDED ALONG I'M GUESSING INTERSTATE 10, WE MADE 7 ELONGATED, AND MADE 6 A BIT MORE COMPACT, INCLUDING BY GIVING IT SOME OF 5.

TO KEEP EVERYTHING BALANCED, 5 TOOK SOME POPULATION FROM 9, AND 9 TOOK SOME POPULATION FROM 4, THESE ARE ALL JUST TO GET THE POPULATIONS BALANCED.

ONE OF THE EFFECTS OF CHANGING THE DISTRICT 6,7 CONFIGURATION WAS TO INCREASE THE HISPANIC PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION IN DISTRICT 6 BY A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE DRIVING ELEMENTS OF DRAWING THIS PARTICULAR VARIATION WAS TO SEE IF WE COULD STRENGTHEN ONE OF THE WESTERN DISTRICTS WITH HISPANIC POPULATION.

SHOW US THE TABLE, CAMERON.

AGAIN, THIS ONE IF YOU LOOK IN THE VERY LOWER LEFT THE OVERALL DEVIATION, FROM MOST POPULOUS TO LEAST POPULOUS IS DOWN AROUND 8 PERCENT.

THIS PLAN ALSO IS POPULATION BALANCED, AND YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE DEVIATION COLUMN EVERYBODY IS WITHIN PLUS OR MINUS 5 PERCENT.

IT'S A LITTLE MORE BALANCED OVERALL, THE AVERAGE DEVIATION IS MUCH SMALLER THAN IT WAS IN PLAN A.

BUT LET ME EMPHASIZE, AS LONG AS YOU ARE BELOW 10 PERCENT TOTAL DEVIATION, GETTING EVERYBODY CLOSE TO ZERO DEVIATION DOES NOT MATTER.

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AT THAT POINT, YOU WANT TO LOOK FOR OTHER ATTRIBUTES IN THE PLAN THAT YOU CARE ABOUT.

FINALLY, LET'S LOOK AT PLAN C. THE MAP PLEASE CAMERON.

YOU WILL IMMEDIATELY NOTICE THAT THE CONFIGURATION OF 9, 5, 6, AND 7, AND FOR THAT MATTER 4, ARE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME IN THIS VARIATION AS THEY WERE IN PLAN B.

THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IS THAT NOW DISTRICT 8, INSTEAD OF HAVING AN EXTENT ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE, IS NOW A DIAGONAL ACROSS THE WIDTH OF THE DISTRICT AT THAT POINT.

DISTRICT 2 HAS BEEN RECONFIGURED TO GIVE UP THE WRAP AROUND PART THAT IT FORMERLY HAD IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER, WERE WRAPPED AROUND DISTRICT 1.

DISTRICT 1 IS A LITTLE MORE COMPACT HERE.

BECAUSE THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THE PLAN IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS THE EXAMPLE B PLAN, THE SAME EFFECT OF INCREASING THE HISPANIC STRENGTH IN 6 IS A RESULT.

AGAIN, THESE ARE INTENDED TO BE EXAMPLES TO GET YOU STARTED THINKING ABOUT ELEMENTS OF CHANGE, BOTH THE RELATIVE MAGNITUDE OF THE CHANGE, AND THE CHANGES THAT YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT.

PLAN A ILLUSTRATES, AGAIN, A MINIMAL APPROACH, BASICALLY ONLY FIXING THE DISTRICTS THAT NEED FIXING, AND HAVING TO DO THAT A LITTLE BIT USING DISTRICT 8, WHEREAS PLANS B AND C INVOLVE QUITE A BIT MORE CHANGE AND ACCOMPLISH DIFFERENT THINGS.

IF YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE, WE CAN OPEN IF ANY ONE OF THESE PLANS IN THE ACTUAL REDISTRICTING SOFTWARE, AND MOVE THE LINES IN REAL TIME.

THERE WILL BE A TABLE UNDERNEATH THE MAP THAT GETS DISPLAYED, THAT HAS ALL THE POPULATION AND DEMOGRAPHIC DATA THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT, AND THE OTHER TABLES, AND THAT TABLE GETS CONTINUOUSLY UPDATED WHEN WE MOVE LINES AROUND.

IF YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE FOR A STARTING POINT, OR A PREFERENCE TO DRAW, WE CAN DO IT.

>> IS ANYONE OPPOSED TO STARTING WITH THE FIRST EXAMPLE?

>> TO WHAT?

>> TO START WITH THE FIRST EXAMPLE AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO SHIP STUFF AROUND TO SEE HOW IT.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THE FIRST EXAMPLE THEN.

>> CAMERON, IF YOU WILL OPEN DRAFT PLAN A.

EVEN THOUGH THIS SEEMS TO TAKE A LONG TIME I'LL POINT OUT HOW LUCKY WE ARE TO HAVE THIS STUFF.

BECAUSE FIVE CYCLES AGO, BOB HEATH WHO WAS WORKING AT THE LEGISLATURE AT THE TIME, DID HIS FIRST REDISTRICTING CYCLE AND HE RECALLS CRAYONS AND MAPS ON THE FLOOR, AND TABLES AND ADDING MACHINES, THIS IS A LITTLE MORE ELEGANT.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE TABLE HAS GOT THREE PARTS, REALLY.

THE LEFT-HAND PART IS THE USUAL TOTAL POPULATION AND DEVIATION FOR EACH OF THE DISTRICTS.

THAT'S THE FAMILIAR PART WE'VE LOOKED AT.

THE TAN OR BROWN SHADED AREA SHOWS TOTAL POPULATION DEMOGRAPHICS FOR THE PREDOMINANT GROUPS; WHITE, BLACK, AND HISPANIC.

THEN A COLUMN FOR TOTAL MINORITIES THAT CAPTURES ALL OF THE OTHER MINORITY GROUPS.

THEN JUMPING PAST THE PURPLE COLUMN, THE BLUE SHADED COLUMNS, IF YOU WILL, ARE THE SAME STATISTICS FOR EACH DISTRICT; WHITE, BLACK, HISPANIC, AND TOTAL MINORITY.

BUT AS A PERCENTAGE OF VOTING AGE POPULATION RATHER THAN TOTAL POPULATION.

AS WE MOVE BOUNDARIES, THAT TABLE WILL BE CONSTANTLY UPDATED, SO YOU'LL IMMEDIATELY BE ABLE TO SEE THE EFFECT, FOR INSTANCE, ON DEVIATION OF A CHANGE THAT YOU MAKE.

ONE OTHER PLACE TO LOOK IS THE VERY UPPER RIGHT CORNER.

YOU WILL SEE THE BLUE AREA THAT SAYS 8.11 PERCENT.

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THAT'S THE TOTAL DEVIATION FOR THIS PLAN AS IT SITS RIGHT THERE.

THE LITTLE ORANGE AREA TO THE RIGHT OF IT, IDENTIFIES THE TWO DISTRICTS THAT ARE THE MOST AND LEAST POPULATED.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE TWO DISTRICTS THAT DRIVE OR DEFINE THAT TOTAL DEVIATION.

IT'S DISTRICT 1, WHICH IS AT MINUS 4.7 PERCENT, AND DISTRICT 7, WHICH IS THE MOST POPULATED, AT 3.4 PERCENT OVERPOPULATED.

DISTRICTS 1 AND 7 ARE THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE DEFINING THE TOTAL POPULATION FOR THIS VERSION OF THE PLAN.

THAT MAY CHANGE AS YOU MOVE LINES AROUND.

>> IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CHANGED? I THOUGHT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE INFORMATION YOU GAVE US BEFORE.

>> I'M SORRY, SAY IT AGAIN.

>> THAT WAS NOT THE INFORMATION THAT YOU GAVE US BEFORE.

DAINE, WASN'T YOUR DISTRICT THAT WAS MOST UNDERPOPULATED?

>> YEAH. [INAUDIBLE] PLAN A.

>> I APOLOGIZE. THIS IS PLAN A.

>> YEAH.

>> WHY WOULD WE MOVE TO GET TO THE NEGATIVE 0.71 PERCENT HERE?

>> I'M SORRY, WHAT?

>> [INAUDIBLE] FROM ONE WHICH IS THE LOWEST POPULATED [INAUDIBLE] THE LOWEST 4.7.

THE HIGHEST POPULATION IS SEVEN

>> IS SEVEN, WHICH IS 3.4.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> THAT BLUE NUMBERS THAT TARGET THAT HAS TO BE BELOW 10 PERCENT.

>> YEAH.

>> THERE MUST BE, AND THIS DIFFERENCE.

THE DEVIATION HERE HAS TO BE PLUS OR MINUS FIVE.

>> I GOT THAT MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. EVERYONE, THANK YOU.

>> YEAH. IT TAKES A BIT TO GET USED TO ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S ON THAT PAGE.

IF I SEEM GLIB, IT'S BECAUSE I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE.

I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHAT CHANGE WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SEE ON THIS PLAN?

>> I THINK WE CAN JUST JUMP IN.

I WANT THIS TO BE LIKE A WORKSHOP, IF THAT WORKS.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> THANK YOU. CURIOSITY. NINE TO THE LOWER PART OF SIX.

[BACKGROUND] NO, I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.

IF WE MOVE THE MAP OR SIX TOOK OVER.

I'M SORRY, I HAD A PLAN AND IT'S GONE.

I HADN'T THOUGHT THROUGH, BUT I'LL KEEP WAITING. I'LL BE BACK.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. I LIKED THE IDEA OF COMPACT DISTRICTS, AND MINE WAS PRETTY COMPACT BEFORE NOW IT'S LIKE MERGING OVER INTO DOWNTOWN IN THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN.

IS THERE A WAY THAT DISTRICT 3 CAN TAKE OVER ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF FOUR, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE DISTRICTS THAT GO CROSS THE CITY.

>> YES, AND WE CAN DRAW THAT.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT A BETTER APPROACH MIGHT BE TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT FROM DISTRICT 8, WHICH IS MORE HISPANIC IN THAT DISTRICT 8, AND DISTRICT 4 IS DOWN THERE.

BUT WE CAN DO IT EITHER WAY.

>> I SEE THE LINE I GUESS IT DOES, THE LINE ON DISTRICT 4 IS JUST ONE STRAIGHT LINE WHICH IS VISUALLY APPEARING [INAUDIBLE].

>> YEAH. IT'S A NICE STRAIGHT LINE WHICH IS PRETTY, BUT NOT VERY INVIOLATE.

YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES IF YOU WANT.

I JUST KNOW FROM LOOKING AT THE DATA THAT THAT PART OF DISTRICT 4 IS NOT TERRIBLY HISPANIC.

YOU WILL DILUTE THE HISPANIC STRENGTH IN THREE.

IF WE GO THERE, I WOULD SUGGEST LET'S SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING GOING BOTH.

>> YEAH. RIGHT THERE, MAGNOLIA PARK, THERE'S LIKE ALMOST A SQUARE AT THE TOP OF DISTRICT 3.

THERE'S ALMOST A SQUARE RIGHT THERE WHERE THE RED LINES ARE.

NOT A SQUARE BUT LIKE A RIGHT ANGLE.

>> WHERE [INAUDIBLE] PUT HIS CURSOR?

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>> YEAH.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHEN WE HIGHLIGHT THINGS LIKE HE'S JUST DONE WITH THAT YELLOW, IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO USE WHOLE COUNTY ELECTION PRECINCTS TO MOVE THINGS AROUND.

THAT WILL MAKE THE COUNTY MUCH HAPPIER THAN IF WE SPLIT A BUNCH OF THEM, AND MAKE YOUR ELECTIONS LESS EXPENSIVE AND LESS TROUBLE FOR THEM.

SOMETIMES, THE SHAPE OF THOSE ELECTION PRECINCTS LEAVES A LITTLE BE DESIRED, AND SOMETIMES IT'S REALLY HELPFUL.

YOU JUST NEVER KNOW.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS PLAN DOES WITH ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT IS TO THE WEST OF THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED AREA, IS REDUCE YOUR HISPANIC STRENGTH BY A FAIR AMOUNT.

WHAT I'M GOING TO THINKING OUT LOUD IS, LET'S SEE IF INSTEAD WE CAN EXPAND THREE A LITTLE BIT NORTH INTO EIGHT AND TAKE SOME OF THAT HISPANIC POPULATION AND KEEP YOUR DISTRICT STRENGTH UP A BIT.

CAMERON, WHAT I'M THINKING OUT LOUD IS, LET'S TAKE BACK THAT BIT THAT WE GAVE UP TO EIGHT, AND PUT IT BACK INTO THREE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> THAT WAS AN AREA THAT THIS PLAN TOOK AWAY FROM YOU, SO WE'RE PUTTING IT BACK, AND NOTICE NOW WHERE THE DEVIATION COLUMN IS.

THERE ARE TWO RED COLORED ENTRIES IN THAT COLUMN.

DISTRICT 3 IS NOW OVERPOPULATED.

THE RADAR IS JUST A FLAG SAYING, OH, BY THE WAY, YOU'VE EXCEEDED FIVE PERCENT.

DISTRICT 8, WHICH WE TOOK THAT FROM, NOT SURPRISINGLY, IS NOW UNDER POPULATED, SO WE'VE GOT TO GIVE BACK SOME TO EIGHT.

>> OR YOU CAN TAKE THE WEST SIDE.

>> YES, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING.

[LAUGHTER] CAMERON, LET'S DO A LITTLE BALANCING OF EIGHT.

SEE IF YOU CAN GIVE THE PARTS OF THREE THAT STUFF.

GIVE THAT BACK TO EIGHT AND LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

NOW, WE ARE IN BALANCE.

BUT THE PROBLEM, OF COURSE, IS THERE'S THAT CHUNK OF THREE.

THAT'S ALL BY ITSELF, NOT CONTIGUOUS.

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT.

I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE DO WITH IT? IF WE GIVE IT TO SEVEN, WE ARE LIKELY TO PUSH SEVEN INTO OVERPOPULATED TERRITORY.

IF WE GIVE IT TO FOUR, WE'RE LIKELY TO DO THE SAME THING, NOT AS MUCH.

LET'S START CAMERON BY GIVING THAT TO FOUR AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

DON'T YOU WISH YOU HAD A SET OF THIS TO PLAY WITH?

>> YES, I DO WISH I HAD.

>> NOW, DISTRICT 4 IS OVERPOPULATED AND DISTRICT 3 IS UNDERPOPULATED, AND WE HAVE TO GET MORE POPULATION INTO YOUR DISTRICT AND SHED SOME FROM 4.

ONE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO LOOK ALONG THAT'S NICE STRAIGHT LINE BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR.

ANOTHER POSSIBILITY IS TAKING SOME MORE FROM EIGHT, AND GIVING SOME OF THAT PART THAT WE PUT BACK INTO FOUR TO EIGHT, AND SEE IF WE CAN RE-BALANCE EIGHT.

CAMERON, MOVE NORTH FROM THREE AND SEE IF THERE IS A HANDY PRECINCT THAT WE CAN ADD TO THREE FROM EIGHT.

>> GOING THIS DIRECTION?

>> WELL, THE PROBLEM IS YOU NOW MAKE THE REST OF EIGHT NON-CONTIGUOUS, SO IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE THAT BIT RIGHT THERE.

>> YEAH.

>> IF YOU LOOK IN THE PART WHERE THE UPPER LEFT THERE'S THAT BLUE TABLE.

THE LAPLACE WITH A LINE DRAWN THROUGH IT ACTUALLY IS GIVING US A TOTAL POPULATION FOR THAT HIGHLIGHTED AREA, WHICH LOOKS LIKE 6,000.

>> [INAUDIBLE] 9,000 ALMOST 10,000.

>> WELL, LET'S MAKE THAT CHANGE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

[BACKGROUND]

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OKAY. THAT HELPED, BUT IT DIDN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM EITHER FOR DISTRICT 4 OR DISTRICT 3.

NOW 8 IS NOT BADLY UNDERPOPULATED, BUT IT HAS SOME UNDER-POPULATION.

SO WHAT CAN WE DO, CAMERON TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF 4 BEING OVERPOPULATED? I'M THINKING OUT LOUD.

>> I KNOW WE HAVE THE ANSWERS TO THE BOX DOWN HERE.

THAT'S 23,000 PEOPLE THOUGH.

>> OKAY.

>> I CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT.

>> SMALL CHANGE [OVERLAPPING].

>> WHAT I'M THINKING AGAIN, CAMERON, IS FINDING SOME MORE AREA IN 8 TO PUT INTO 3.

WE WILL GIVE MORE OF THAT DISTRICT 4 AREA TO 8 AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> THAT'S PROBABLY TOO MUCH.

>> DISTRICT 3 STILL NEEDS TO ADD ABOUT 11,000 AND THIS IS 9,000 SO THIS SHOULD PROBABLY BE ENOUGH.

>> ALL RIGHT, TRY IT.

>> THERE WE GO. THEN, SHOULD I JUST TAKE UP PART OF.

>> YEAH, TAKE THAT TOO.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> THIS PLAN, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE DEVIATION NUMBERS ALL BEING GREEN, EVERY DISTRICT'S WITHIN PLUS OR MINUS FIVE PERCENT.

THIS ONE IS IN BALANCE AT ABOUT 8.11 PERCENT, WHICH IS ABOUT WHERE WE STARTED.

BUT ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN SEE THE WHOLE THING.

[BACKGROUND] NOW CAMERON IF YOU WILL DO US A FAVOR TO MAKE SURE THAT IN ALL OF THAT WE DIDN'T DRAW SOMEBODY OUT, WILL YOU PUT THE INCUMBENT LATER ON SO WE'LL SEE WHERE EVERYBODY IS.

[BACKGROUND]

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE, LET'S SEE.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY MAY BE FINE EXCEPT 8.

>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THIS BACK INTO 8.

>> HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THERE?

>> IT'S STILL DOWN [INAUDIBLE].

>> THERE WE ARE.

[BACKGROUND].

>> WHILE HE'S DOING THAT, CAN I ASK A QUESTION PLEASE?

>> SURE.

>> WHAT IS, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE TYPICAL DEVIATION?

>> A TYPICAL DEVIATION?

>> YES.

>> YOU MEAN OF A SUCCESSFUL ADOPTED PLAN?

>> WELL, NO. IF WE'RE LOOKING AT.

>> LESS THAN TEN PERCENT, THEY ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

>> RIGHT. AFTER THE CENSUS, TYPICALLY WHAT ARE YOU SEEING AS FAR AS.

>> THE RANGE OF OUT OF BALANCE?

>> YES.

>> YOU GUYS ARE IN THE LOWER MIDDLE, TWENTY-FIVEISH PERCENT.

WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CLIENTS WHO DIDN'T HAVE TO REDRAW.

WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF NOT 11 PERCENT BUT TEN SOMETHING THAT WERE A LITTLE UNHAPPY THAT THEY HAD TO REDRAW.

FORTUNATELY, IT WAS A VERY SMALL CHANGE.

>> WE'VE HAD SOME THAT WERE AT 80 PERCENT.

>> OKAY. THE REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE 1 IS SO CLOSE TO THAT 5 PERCENT.

IS THERE ANY WAY TO MOVE SOME OF 2 INTO 1? THAT WAY, MOVE 1 INTO 2, AND THAT WAY 1 COMES DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND THEN 2

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GOES UP A LITTLE BIT AND MAYBE WE WON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN.

[BACKGROUND]

>> WELL, YOU'LL HAVE TO [OVERLAPPING].

>> PLEASE TELL ME ME WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT [OVERLAPPING]

>> WELL NOBODY HAS TO GO THROUGH IT I UNDERSTAND THAT [OVERLAPPING] BUT WILL BE CLOSER.

>> NO YOU'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT IN TEN YEARS REGARDLESS.

>> IN TEN YEARS?

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. LISTEN.

>> CAMERON IS NOW HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE PRECINCT STRUCTURE IN THAT VERY FAR PART OF 2, WHICH WOULD BE A NATURAL AREA TO GIVE SOME TO 1 FROM, BUT 1 AND 2 TOUCH IN A LOT OF PLACES SO THERE ARE OTHER SPOTS.

>> MY PREFERENCE, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SOME FROM KATHY BLUEFORD-DANIEL'S AND TRUSTEES GROUPS HERE.

SO 8 AND 2, AGAIN, ONLY IF YOU ALL ARE OKAY WITH IT.

THAT SAM HOUSTON FEEDER PATTERN, KATHY, I'LL TAKE PATRICK HENRY, ALL THAT AREA, AND JUDITH I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE THE NORTH SIDE FEEDER PATTERN ALL THAT AREA.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> I WOULD GIVE JUDITH SOME OF THE HEIGHTS, THE TRAVIS FEEDER PATTERN, THAT TRAVIS AREA.

WOULD YOU BE OKAY JUDITH, DO I NEED TO POINT WHERE OUT THAT IS?

>> YES, WHERE HE WAS CLICKING.

>> WHERE YOU WERE CLICKING WAS EXACTLY WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE CLICKED.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> THEN YOU WOULD SHIFT ME OVER THAT.

>> WHAT YOU JUST CLICKED GOES TO 8.

>> COULD GO TO 8. THEN THAT LITTLE SQUIGGLY W RIGHT ABOVE THAT 8.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> HOLD ON. HOLD ON. WE'RE NOT DONE.

CAN YOU MOVE THE MAP UP, PLEASE.

I WANT TO SEE MORE OF THE NORTHERN PART OF THE MAP. THANK YOU.

I'M LOSING THAT SO I WOULD GAIN FROM HARDY TOLL ROAD. LET'S SEE.

KATHY YOU WITH ME ON THIS ONE, YOU TELL ME.

[OVERLAPPING] THE SAM HOUSTON FEEDER PATTERN IS GOING TO BE TIDWELL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BASICALLY, THAT NORTHERN PART OF DISTRICT 1 UNDER SKINNER, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SKINNER ALL THE WAY DOWN PAST TURNER BARRY ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> THAT WOULD BE BASED ON POPULATION.

>> WHAT IS NOW 12 PERCENT UNDER-POPULATION.

>> OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO ADD HERE.

SO FROM SKINNER ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO KATHY, WHERE DO YOU WANT ME?

>> YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO POINT AT THE MAP BECAUSE NEITHER CAMERON NOR I ARE FAMILIAR WITH THESE STREETS.

>> DO YOU HAVE A YARD STICK?

>> JUST TO THE RIGHT OF THE PURPLE WHERE THAT LITTLE UPSIDE DOWN L, THE CORNER, SO RIGHT BELOW IT.

JUST KEEP GOING STRAIGHT DOWN.

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH. KEEP GOING DOWN. KEEP CLICKING.

>> KEEP GOING DOWN.

>> YOU'LL SEE THE STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE STRUCK WITH.

>> DOWN BUT NOT WIDER.

>> WELL, THE PROBLEM IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING WHEN HE HIGHLIGHTS THAT IS [OVERLAPPING] THE ELECTION PRECINCT THAT COUNTY HAS DRAWN.

>> OKAY. WELL, IT'S [OVERLAPPING]

>> WHICH WE CAN SPLIT. [BACKGROUND]

>> YEAH. CAN WE SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE? JUST CLICK IT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> GO TO BLOCKS, CAMERON, AND TAKE THAT TRIANGLE.

>> JUST KEEP GOING DOWN. DOWN THAT BARRY ROAD.

>> THAT'S [INAUDIBLE].

>> OR WHATEVER. THAT BARRY ROAD HAS GARCIA ELEMENTARY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT THAT ONE.

I WOULD LOVE THE SAM HOUSTON PETER PATTERN.

I'D GO DOWN TO CROSS MEMBERS IF KATHY LET ME.

>> YOU WANT IT TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN?

>> I SAID I WOULD GO DOWN ALL THE WAY TO CROSS MEMBERS IF KATHY LET ME.

JUST DO BLUE FOR DANIELS, YEAH.

[BACKGROUND] JENSEN TO THE LEFT.

>> YEAH. SHOULD I AHEAD AND MOVE THIS ONTO ONE? OR DO YOU WANT ME TO ADD IT HERE?

>> WE'LL SEE WHAT THAT EFFECT IS TO START WITH.

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>> YEAH, LET'S SEE.

>> GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT CHANGE.

>> ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO.

THE ONE IS STILL A LITTLE BIT UNDERPOPULATED, AND EIGHT IS STILL OVERPOPULATED.

>> STILL OVERPOPULATED? EIGHT WOULD STILL BE OVERPOPULATED? OKAY, KATHY.

>> ONE WAY TO DO THAT, YOU NOTICE IN THE FAR WEST, PAN LEFT A LITTLE BIT.

[BACKGROUND].

NOTICE THAT AREA RIGHT THERE THAT WE GAVE UP.

>> KATHY, YOU WANT SOME OF THE RIGHT ON THE TOP RIGHT?

>> HOLD ON. MY APP CRASHED.[BACKGROUND]

>> HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO RECONSTRUCT THAT I THINK.

>> YEAH. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

[BACKGROUND]

>> OKAY. THAT MADE SOME DIFFERENCE BUT DIDN'T TOTALLY BALANCED THINGS.

>> KATHY, ARE WE OKAY? CAN WE SEE WHAT I SUGGESTED?

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> THEN TO GIVE EIGHT A LITTLE MORE AT THE TOP RIGHT CORNER, THE NORTH FOREST FEEDER PATTERN.

YOU'RE GOING TO GO UP TO DISTRICT EIGHT ON THE FAR-RIGHT.

>> THE TOP RIGHT.

>> THE VERY TOP RIGHT.

BASICALLY FROM TIDWELL ON THE FAR RIGHT THERE ALL THE WAY, ITS TOP SHADED AREA WOULD GO TO DISTRICT TWO.

I APOLOGIZE. [OVERLAPPING] NO. I'M SORRY.

I MISSPOKE. WHAT IS THIS [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT HERE?

>> CAMERON YOU'RE GIVING AWAY SOME OF THE NORTHERN PART OF EIGHT?

>> YES. ALL OF THE NORTHERN PART OF EIGHT.

>> ALL THE NORTHERN PART OF EIGHT.

>> THE TOP PART.

>> TO TWO.

>> OKAY. I GOT IT THE WRONG WAY.

>> PERFECT. THAT WAS WHAT I WAS SAYING, NOW PERFECT, THAT IT WAS PERFECT.

[BACKGROUND]

>> ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO.

NOW TWO IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OVERPOPULATED.

THEN ONE IS UNDERPOPULATED.

>> CAN YOU SCROLL WHERE WE CAN SEE ALL THE POPULATION FOR EACH OF THE DISTRICTS?

>> DOWN BELOW?

>> WHAT ABOUT THAT CORNER UP WEST TIDWELL ABOVE ONE, THAT WEST TIDWELL BROADWAY [INAUDIBLE] UP THERE, LOOKS LIKE THE STATE OF TEXAS?

>> YOU WANT TO GIVE AWAY EL PASO?

>> [LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND] WELL, HOLD ON. CAN WE FINISH EIGHT? JUDITH, DO YOU FALL WITHIN THE GUIDELINES?

>> EIGHT IS FINE, AS IS.

>> YEAH. THE HISPANIC COUNT GOES DOWN. THAT'S ALL.

>> CAMERON, IF YOU WILL TAKE THE WESTERN MOST PIECE OF TWO THAT LOOKS LIKE THE BIG BEND AND GIVE THAT AREA TO ONE.

LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

>> WAIT.

THAT WHOLE AREA?

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OKAY.[BACKGROUND]

>> OKAY, NOW TWO. THAT WORKS FOR ONE.

TWO IS NOW A LITTLE BIT SMALL AND NEEDS TO GAIN SOME MORE POPULATION.

SO IT CAN TAKE BACK SOME OF THIS AREA FROM ONE OR TAKE FROM OTHER PLACES.

>> YEAH. TAKE IT THAT [INAUDIBLE] AREA, THE UPPER [INAUDIBLE] AREA FROM ONE, THE WEST TIDWELL AREA AND PUT IT BACK IN TWO.

>> ALL RIGHT. THIS AREA OR GO FURTHER SOUTH?

>> NO. THAT THIN AREA RIGHT HERE. GO WEST.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> [OVERLAPPING] YOU ARE BALANCED. YOU WANT TO ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT.

[BACKGROUND]

>> BLESS YOU.

>> CAN I SEE A DISTRICT AT THE BOTTOM OF THREE? CAN YOU HIGHLIGHT WHERE THE PRECINCTS ARE?

>> GO DOWN TO THE SOUTHERN PART OF THREE AND LET'S SEE WHAT THE ELECTION PRECINCT CONFIGURATION DOWN THERE IS, BOTTOM OF THREE.

>> WE HAVE A LASER POINTED TO TRUSTEES, IF YOU WILL WANT TO COME USE IT ON THIS BIG MAP.

>> [LAUGHTER] LET ME SEE IF I CAN DO THIS.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> [BACKGROUND]I KNOW I CAN SEE IT OUTSIDE OF VEGAS.

>> IT DOESN'T SHOW ON THE GREEN.

>> YEAH. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I THINK IT BECOME CLOSE.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> [LAUGHTER] THIS AREA RIGHT HERE INTO THREE.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> RIGHT. ON EAST OF [INAUDIBLE] THE PRECINCT JUST SO THAT I CAN SEE.

>>YEAH. IN THE VERY SOUTHERN PART OF FOUR, HIGHLIGHT THE PRECINCT.

>> THEN REMOVE SOME OF THE NORTHERN PART OF THREE THAT YOU TOOK FROM ME.

>> YOU WANT TO DO A SWAP, YOU WANT TO SEE?

>> I WILL SEE.

>> PUT THAT INTO THREE.

>> OKAY.

>> YOU'RE IMBALANCED STILL.

YOU STILL WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO THE NORTHERN PART OF FOUR AND THREE?

>> YES.

>> GO TO THE NORTH-WEST CORNER, YES, AND THE PART OF THREE THAT'S IN FOUR.

THE NORTH-WEST PART OF THREE, RIGHT THERE.

>> THIS RIGHT HERE?

>> YEAH.

>> I JUST SEE ONE HERE.

>> JUST THE ONE.

>> GOT IT.

>> PUT THAT BACK INTO FOUR.

>> I BELIEVE THAT WAS IN 3D, TO BEGIN WITH.

>> WHAT PRECINCT IS THAT?

>> NOW, THREE IS SLIGHTLY UNDERPOPULATED.

THERE WAS A LOT OF POPULATION THERE.

>> THE OVERALL DEVIATION IS STILL UNDER A 10 PERCENT [INAUDIBLE]

>> BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IN THE UPPER RIGHT CORNER, THE TOTAL DEVIATION IS LESS THAN 10 PERCENT.

EVEN THOUGH DISTRICT 3 IS MORE THAN 5 PERCENT UNDERPOPULATED, THE PLAN AS A WHOLE IS IMBALANCE.

>> I WILL ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT GIVING SOME OF THE NORTH-EAST PART AND THAT'S OF COURSE IN MAGNOLIA PARK.

>> NORTH-EAST PART OF WHICH?

>> OF THREE.

>> MAGNOLIA PARK.

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>> MAGNOLIA PARK. AT THREE.

>> NO, SHE'S TALKING ABOUT TAKING SOME FROM THREE AND PUTTING IT BACK INTO EIGHT, IS THAT LITTLE BIT RIGHT THERE?

>> YOU GOT IT.

>> WHICH PART DO YOU WANT YOUR PRECINCTS THERE?

>> YEAH. THAT'S FINE, THOSE TWO JUST EIGHT.

>> PUT THOSE INTO EIGHT.

>> I CAN GO FURTHER BACK AS WELL.

>> NOW, WE ARE OUT OF BALANCE AND IT'S DISTRICTS THREE AND EIGHT.

THAT SHIFT IS WHAT DID IT.

>> CAN YOU MOVE THE MAP UP A LITTLE BIT SO I CAN SEE WHAT'S DOWN THERE?

>> YOU WANT TO SEE MORE TO THE SOUTH?

>> YES, THE PART THAT YOU JUST ADDED OR WHAT SHE TOOK FROM 4 TO 3.

>> LET'S SEE MORE OF THE SOUTH.

>> YEAH. THE MAP, A LITTLE UP. FAR DOWN.

>> WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO TO TRY TO FIX THAT IMBALANCE?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

>> YEAH, YOU SEE IT'S ALWAYS A TRADE-OFF.

>> YEAH. [BACKGROUND] SEE WHERE THE HIGHLIGHTED PRECINCT AT THE SOUTHERN PART OF 4 [INAUDIBLE]? OR THE ORANGE LINES OVER THE PRECINCTS?

>> CAMERON OR THE ORANGE LINES PRECINCTS? I CAN'T TELL.

>> THAT LITTLE PURPLE PART WHERE YOU [INAUDIBLE]

>> YES, THE ORANGE LINES ARE THE 2020 ELECTION PRECINCTS.

THE NEW 2022 ONES MIGHT BE A TINY BIT DIFFERENT.

>> DID EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT?

>> NO.

>> THE COUNTY HAD ELECTION PRECINCTS IN PLACE IN 2020 BEFORE IT REDISTRICTED.

STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT AFTER THE LEGISLATURE REDISTRICTS AND A COUNTY REDISTRICTS THAT THEY RE-BALANCE ACCORDING TO SOME COMPLICATED RULES THEIR ELECTION PRECINCTS, AND SO THEY RECONFIGURED THEIR ELECTION PRECINCTS IN 2022 AND WHAT THE CENSUS HAS, THE VT-D'S ARE THE 2020 ELECTION PRECINCTS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN PLACES BETWEEN THE NEW CURRENT COUNTY CONFIGURATION AND THE OLD CONFIGURATION AND WE TYPICALLY DO A PLAN AND THEN IDENTIFY THOSE PLACES WHERE THE ELECTION PRECINCTS HAVE CHANGED AND ARE DISCREPANT IN THE SENSE THAT OUR LINE MAY FOLLOW AN OLD PRECINCT LINE INSTEAD OF A NEW ONE AND DO CLEAN UP AT THAT POINT.

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THOSE ORANGE LINES ARE THE 2020 ELECTION PRECINCTS WHICH OUGHT TO BE CLOSE-ISH.

>> THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION; IS THE GOAL FOR TODAY TO FIGURE THIS OUT OR WHAT IS THE GOAL FOR TODAY JUST TO SEE THIS? THINK ABOUT IT?

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>> WELL, YOU CAN'T GO HOME UNTIL WE'VE SOLVED THIS.

[LAUGHTER] I CAN, BUT YOU CAN'T. [LAUGHTER]

>> WE HAVE A SECOND MEETING SCHEDULED WITH MR. FOCK ON JUNE 16TH THAT WILL ALSO DO THE SAME THING.

IT'S UP TO US, RIGHT DEPENDING ON HOW MANY MEETINGS WE WANT TO HAVE AND HOW MANY TIMES WE WANT TO DO THIS.

WE HAVE TWO MEETINGS SCHEDULED.

IF WE WERE TO COME TO A CONSENSUS AT THE SECOND MEETING, THEN WE CAN DECIDE THEN AND HAVE SOMETHING READY FOR THE PUBLIC TO VIEW AND START COMMUNITY FEEDBACK SESSIONS ON AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.

BUT IT DEPENDS ON WHERE WE ARE.

>> WHEN WORST COMES TO WORST, WE CAN SCHEDULE ONE IN THE FALL.

YOU DON'T NEED TO RUSH TO JUDGMENT.

>> WILL YOU SPEAK IN THE MIKE JUST BECAUSE IT'S BROADCAST?

>> THANK YOU. WHEN YOU SAY FOR THE PUBLIC TO VIEW, ARE YOU PLANNING ON LETTING THEM VIEW IT JUST ON THE WEBSITE OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS HERE IN OUR DISTRICT?

>> BOTH. I THINK CAUSE WE'RE OFF IN JULY, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY, IT WOULD JUST BE NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO PUT ON THE WEBSITE.

FOLKS CAN START LOOKING AT IT, THINKING ABOUT IT AND THAT WAY WHEN WE GO INTO HAVING COMMUNITY MEETINGS WHEN SCHOOL STARTS BACK UP, THEN FOLKS HAVE ALREADY LOOKED AT IT, BUT IT'S REALLY UP TO US WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

>> BECAUSE I HAVE A COMMENT THAT I LIKE THE WAY THAT HE ARRANGED, AND WHAT YOU ALL ARE SUGGESTING, IT SEEMS THAT YOU ALL ARE SUGGESTING MINIMAL IMPACT ON WHAT THE PUBLIC WILL SEE.

I CAN SEE THAT YOU DID THAT THE MOST IN YOUR EXAMPLE A. I'M IN THE MINDSET OF I LIKE TO JUST PICK MY BATTLES CAREFULLY WITH THE PUBLIC.

I LIKE THE WAY THAT YOU'RE GOING ALONG THE LINE AND TRY TO MAKE MINIMAL IMPACT AS YOU HAD IT IN A THERE AND WHATEVER THE LADIES INPUT, WHATEVER THEY DECIDE ON SO ANYWAY THANK YOU.

>> MAY I PLEASE SEE ONE LAST TIME BEFORE WE LEAVE THE ORIGINAL MAP? THE VERY FIRST SLIDE.

>> THE PLAN A?

>> NO, WHERE WE ARE NOW.

>> THE CURRENT DISTRICT?

>> YES.

>> THERE YOU ARE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YES, THE NEXT SLIDE AFTER THAT.

>> THE TABLE?

>> YES SIR.

>> THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> BACK TO THE PLAN. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A SHOT AT REBALANCING?

>> MY SUGGESTION RIGHT NOW WILL BE FOR THREE TO GET THAT LOWER PART OF FOUR.

>> TRYING TO MAKE A LINE RIGHT THERE?

>> [INAUDIBLE] NO [LAUGHTER]

>> YOU WANT TO TRY TRANSFERRING THERE? IS THAT WHAT YOU HAD IN MIND?

>> YEAH. DO I NEED POPULATION?

>> YEAH, THREE NEEDS POPULATION.

>> THAT DIDN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING TO MY POPULATION.

> NOW WE'RE CLOSE.

WE NEED TO SHED SOME FROM EIGHT, WHICH COULD GO INTO THREE [BACKGROUND] OR TO TWO.

[BACKGROUND]

>> PART THAT LOOKS CLEAR ON FOUR.

I THINK THAT WAS THREE ORIGINALLY.

>> DID SHE JUST CHANGE TO THREE? THAT IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE FOR ME.

>> I THINK THAT WE'RE JUST HAVING [BACKGROUND] IDEA.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> SHOULD WE UNDO THAT?

>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOUR CHILD LIVES.

>> THE ONE THAT YOU JUST MOVED OVER.

>> THERE WAS TWO OF THEM THERE.

>> I KNOW, BUT HE LIVES IN THE ONE YOU JUST MOVED OVER.

>> THAT ONE?

>> YEAH, BOTH OF THOSE.

>> THAT ONE, SO HE LIVES IN BOTH OF THEM.

[LAUGHTER] WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT IT.

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[LAUGHTER]

>> CAMERON GIVES THE NORTHERN ONE OF THOSE TWO PRECINCTS BACK TO FOUR.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> THE OTHER ONE?

>> WHAT ABOUT THIS GREEN SPACE WHERE THAT SQUIGGLY LINE IS?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> MINUS THREE.

>> CAMERON, WHILE WE'RE LOOKING, KEEP THAT HIGHLIGHTED AND HIGHLIGHT ONE ABOVE IT.

[NOISE] LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T GET TO TOTAL POPULATION OF ABOUT 10,000.

JUST HIGHLIGHT UNTIL WE GET 10,000.

IF WE MOVE THAT FROM FOUR, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE TOO MUCH FROM FOUR, BUT IT WILL BALANCE THREE. TRY THAT.

>> THERE WE GO. [INAUDIBLE]

>> I NOTICE THAT FOUR AND EIGHT ARE COMPARABLY UNDER AN OVERPOPULATED.

IN PRINCIPLE, WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO FIND SOMETHING ON THE ORDER OF 6000 OR 7000 PEOPLE TO MOVE FROM 8-4.

ANY SUGGESTIONS?

>> THAT'S EIGHT THAT WRAPS AROUND.

>> HOW ABOUT THE PART, CAMERON, THAT WE STARTED WITH IN FOUR, THE LITTLE WRAP-AROUND IN THE UPPER LEFT OF FOUR?

>> LIKE THIS AREA DOWN?

>> YES.

>> GO AHEAD AND GIVE THAT BACK TO FOUR.

>> DO.

>> THERE WE GO. WELL DONE.

>> PAN OUT A LITTLE BIT.

>> CAN YOU SAVE THIS VERSION AND SEND IT TO US?

>> I'M SORRY. SAY AGAIN.

>> CAN YOU SAVE THIS VERSION AND SEND IT TO US?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THAT'LL BE GREAT.

>> LET'S CALL THIS ONE D AS IN DOG.

GO AHEAD AND SAVE IT.

BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WHERE THE INCUMBENTS ARE.

LET'S SEE IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A PLAN WHERE WE DRAW EVERYBODY OUT.

>> TRUSTEES, WE HAD SCHEDULED ONE HOUR FOR THIS.

WE DO HAVE AN AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING SCHEDULED AT THIS MOMENT.

I THINK THIS WAS HELPFUL AS A FIRST STEP FOR US TO SEE WHAT THE PROCESS LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT TO EXPECT.

WE HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE AND HOW THAT AFFECTS EACH OF OUR NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS.

WE HAVE A SECOND MEETING SCHEDULED ON JUNE 16TH AT NOON.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER MOVEMENT FOLKS WANT TO SEE TODAY OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO THINK THROUGH THE NEXT TWO WEEKS? BUT I KNOW WE'VE GOT THESE YESTERDAY TOO, SO IT WASN'T A LOT OF TIME TO THINK IT THROUGH.

GIVES US A LITTLE MORE TIME TO MULL OVER IT AND THINK ABOUT IT AND

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BE SUPER PREPARED FOR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.

BUT THIS WAS REALLY HELPFUL. I THINK WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT TO EXPECT AND NOW WE CAN SEE HOW IT ALL WORKS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. FOGG.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO KEEP THIS GOING.

>> YOU GUYS DID WELL.

>> CAN YOU SEND THIS VERSION D TO OUR EMAIL OR YOU CAN SEND IT TO ME?

>> I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY OR TWO, BUT YOU'LL GET IT.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.

ALL OF YOU WITH GLAZED EYES.

>> [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU.

>> SALINE SOLUTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, MR. FOGG.

THIS CONCLUDES OUR DISCUSSION.

WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO DISCUSS, THIS MEETING OF THE BOARD IS ADJOURNED.

THE TIME IS 3:08 PM ON JUNE 2ND, 2022.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.